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The trinity is false - I have proof

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
So what, I use the Bible to determine truth,...In fact.. I don't care about when the Greek or Hebrew word existed.. Respectfully I read what Jesus says and he says he is Gods Son and his Father is the only true God. John 3:16, 17:3; Matthew 16:13-17 and the apostles taught the same after Jesus went to heaven.

I think it is fine you believe what you do, I just have a different way based on Jesus words.

Why do you have to find a problem with the way I believe? I don't find a problem with your way of believing.

I have nothing against your way of thinking, I just like to use Jesus words to determine things. Why can't we both believe what we want to?
Because only one way can be correct, my friend. Right?

Am I right? Or am I wrong?

What does God want? Does it matter to Him?

What was God’s penalty if His people worshipped other gods?

Christian love,
Hockeycowboy
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Because only one way can be correct, my friend. Right?

Am I right? Or am I wrong?

What does God want? Does it matter to Him?

What was God’s penalty if His people worshipped other gods?

Christian love,
Hockeycowboy
When I first began my study with Jehovah's Witnesses, I had many questions. I was thrilled with what I was learning and still am although I resisted studying with them at first and actually would tell them to go away if they approached me or knocked on my door until certain situations occurred.
I went to synagogue basically all my life before that and we never opened a Tanach (basically the Old Testament said by some) but we would read some scriptures in the prayer book during the service, the same ones again and again. I had a King James Bible at home but never understood it. I celebrated certain holidays that were considered the "Jewish holidays." That's about it. Then later when I sang in church (by that time I was an atheist, but they paid me to sing which was nice and I loved the music so it was nice to get paid to do what I enjoyed so much) I was still an atheist and saw things in the church that even without knowing what the Bible said were questionable. The pastor did not really discuss what the Bible said when he gave his sermons. The choirmaster, while rather famous, also did not talk about the Bible and what it said.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
When I first began my study with Jehovah's Witnesses, I had many questions. I was thrilled with what I was learning and still am although I resisted studying with them at first and actually would tell them to go away if they approached me or knocked on my door until certain situations occurred.
I went to synagogue basically all my life before that and we never opened a Tanach (basically the Old Testament said by some) but we would read some scriptures in the prayer book during the service, the same ones again and again. I had a King James Bible at home but never understood it. I celebrated certain holidays that were considered the "Jewish holidays." That's about it. Then later when I sang in church (by that time I was an atheist, but they paid me to sing which was nice and I loved the music so it was nice to get paid to do what I enjoyed so much) I was still an atheist and saw things in the church that even without knowing what the Bible said were questionable. The pastor did not really discuss what the Bible said when he gave his sermons. The choirmaster, while rather famous, also did not talk about the Bible and what it said.
It’s sad, isn’t it?

But, on another note (excuse the pun), you must have a pretty voice, getting paid to sing, huh?
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
It’s sad, isn’t it?

But, on another note (excuse the pun), you must have a pretty voice, getting paid to sing, huh?
Evidently. As one ages, the voice can go also. Nevertheless, looking forward...The description of Babylon the Great with its (her) magnificence is certainly an apt description of -- false religion and what is destined to be destroyed, as foretold in the book of Revelation. Bejeweled, fabulous even with the music. I look forward to meeting Handel. Handel's oratorio The Messiah is all scriptural -- no interpretation. Beautiful, beautiful. I remember when I studied the Bible I gave the music back to the choirmaster. And I told him what the Bible said. Boy was he mad.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
The Trinitarian concept in Catholicism has it that there are not three gods but one God with Jesus and the Holy Spirit being of the "essence" of God.
John L. McKenzie, S.J., a highly respected scholar and Catholic priest, ie. a trinitarian himself, in his Dictionary of the Bible, says: “The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of ‘person’ and ‘nature’ which are Gk (Greek) philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as ‘essence’ and ‘substance’ were erroneously applied to God by some theologians.”—(Italics, underlining, & bold type are mine.) (New York, 1965), p. 899.

He was an honest scholar. He did not allow bias to color his objectivity.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Evidently. As one ages, the voice can go also. Nevertheless, looking forward...The description of Babylon the Great with its (her) magnificence is certainly an apt description of -- false religion and what is destined to be destroyed, as foretold in the book of Revelation. Bejeweled, fabulous even with the music. I look forward to meeting Handel. Handel's oratorio The Messiah is all scriptural -- no interpretation. Beautiful, beautiful. I remember when I studied the Bible I gave the music back to the choirmaster. And I told him what the Bible said. Boy was he mad.
Yes, meeting some of those people - non-worshippers of Jehovah - in the Resurrection will be wonderful, too!

Can you imagine the huge Family Tree we’ll discover?!!!!
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
You're better versed at this than I am perhaps, so as I understand it (now), there were no upper and lower cases in the earliest manuscripts, right?
@metis I elucidate a bit -- according to the dictionary, How the Greeks Influenced Our Alphabet. At first there were only what we know as upper case letters. Live and learn. That is another reason why everlasting life is such a wonderful promise.
 
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