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the trinity, what do you believe?

Starlight

Starlight

Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
Earthtank said:
I choose option 3: which both are bs and make absolutely ZERO sense especially to anyone who has read the bible
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What do you believe about Jesus and God?

Why did the trinity not make sense to you after you read the Bible?
 
Starlight

Starlight

Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
Opinion 2 is NOT the correct trinity doctrine. Opinion 2 is close to tritheism.

The reason i wrote opinion 2 in this tread is because I wanted to see if many christians have misunderstood or believe wrong about the trinity doctrine.

According to the offical trinity doctrine and most churches in the world God is only one being shared by three persons. Christians believe only in one God.

According to the offical trinity doctrine and most churches in the world it is a heresy to say God is three beings in one being.
 
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Aupmanyav

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Meandflower said:
What is trimurty?
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Trimurty is a sculpture in Elephanta island caves in Mumbai representing three major Hindu Gods - Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. It is supposed to have been sculpted around 550 CE.

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"The Trimurti is considered a masterpiece and the most important sculpture in the caves. .. It is also known as Sadashiva and Maheshmurti. The image, 6 m (20 ft) in height, depicts a three-headed Shiva, .." Elephanta Caves - Wikipedia
 
Starlight

Starlight

Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
SalixIncendium said:
I think it depends on what part of the elephant on is touching.

I suppose pragmatically, one would see the Trinity as option 2, while absolutely, one may see it as option 1.
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Opinion 2 is not the correct trinity doctrine.
 
Starlight

Starlight

Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
Aupmanyav said:
Trimurty is a sculpture in Elephanta island caves in Mumbai representing three major Hindu Gods - Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. It is supposed to have been sculpted around 550 CE.

220px-Trimurti%2C_Cave_No._1%2C_Elephanta_Caves_-_1.jpg


"The Trimurti is considered a masterpiece and the most important sculpture in the caves. .. It is also known as Sadashiva and Maheshmurti. The image, 6 m (20 ft) in height, depicts a three-headed Shiva, .." Elephanta Caves - Wikipedia
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According to the offical trinity doctrine and most christian denominations in the world God is only one being shared by three persons. Christians believe only in one God.

According to the offical trinity doctrine and most christian denominations in the world it is a heresy to believe God is three beings. That heresy is called tritheism.

So to think trimurty is similar to the trinity is wrong. Christians do NOT believe God is three beings/gods/entities who work and live in unity. That is a heresy called tritheism

Christians believe God is only one Being shared by three persons. Because christians believe God is only one.
 
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Starlight

Starlight

Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
Aupmanyav said:
Trimurty is male chauvinist idea. It forgets Mother Durga in her thouand forms. ;)
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Opinion 2 is NOT the correct trinity doctrine. Opinion 2 is close to tritheism.

The reason i wrote opinion 2 in this tread is because I wanted to see if many christians have misunderstood or believe wrong about the trinity doctrine.

According to the offical trinity doctrine and most christian denominations in the world God is only one being shared by three persons. Christians believe only in one God.

According to the offical trinity doctrine and most christian denominations in the world it is a heresy to believe God is three beings in one being.
 
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Aupmanyav

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Meandflower said:
According to the offical trinity doctrine and most christian denominations in the world God is only one being shared by three persons. Christians believe only in one God.
The offical trinity doctrine and most christian denominations in the world think that to believe God is three beings is a heresy called tritheism.
So to think trimurty is similar to the trinity is wrong. Christians do NOT believe God is three beings/gods/entities who work and live in unity. That is a heresy called tritheism
Christians believe God is only one Being shared by three persons. Because christians believe God is only one.
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What Christian believe is none of my concern.
Meandflower said:
Opinion 2 is NOT the correct trinity doctrine. Opinion 2 is close to tritheism.
The reason i wrote opinion 2 in this tread is because I wanted to see if many christians have misunderstood or believe wrong about the trinity doctrine.
According to the offical trinity doctrine and most christian denominations in the world God is only one being shared by three persons. Christians believe only in one God.
According to the offical trinity doctrine and most christian denominations in the world it is a heresy to believe God is three beings in one being.
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You did not specify Christians in the OP.
 
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LactoseIntolerant

Member
Meandflower said:
Why do you believe the trinity is unbiblical?
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There are many verses that Jesus says that the Father is Greater than He. For example, the Lord's prayer Matthew 6:6, the words of Christ on the cross Matthew 27:46, womenly behavior in church 1 Corinthians 11:3, etc

The main verse John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." was mistranslated as most trinitarian scholars would interpret it as "... and the Word was Divine". This has many possible meanings. By what means can humans understand that which is unknowable. Details of the Divine nature are beyond the comprehension of human.

The Granville Sharp rules for Greek Plurality is not scholarly. It was achieved by a well meaning preacher.

The jews believed in one Deity. Jesus and the apostles were jews, so where was the kerfuffle to explain trinity in the Gospels. There was no straightforward discussion or description of trinity (plain straightforwardness with Prophecy is commanded in the Scriptures). This implies extrabiblical ideas which are forbidden in the Scriptures.

The statement "I am" is a very common statement in the bible. "I am that I am" likely means in normal conversation as "Its too complicated for you to understand". We ourselves use it all the time.

There are numerous things trinitarians must square before it should be considered divinely inspired.

Meandflower said:
What do you believe about Jesus and God?
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I believe as the Bible requires.
1) There is one God.
2) No images of wood (or mind) are to be worshipped.
3) Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath (and the Only Begotten Son of God).
Jesus is Divine in that He born before alpha but is subordinate to the Father. God created the universe and Jesus was the means by which it all came about. Father and Son are metaphysically necessary axioms. Father - necessary for creation. Son - necessary of existence of man in the creation.
 
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