the virgin mary

[buadum]

I have every right to call people out on something that cannot be proven,or cannot be done.

Claiming a virgin got pregnant is trolling in my opinion because its not possible and we know it because we cannot do it.

I suppose the dreamers have a right to believe it,however it cannot be proven and therefore cannot be spoken about in absolutes.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I have every right to call people out on something that cannot be proven,or cannot be done.

Claiming a virgin got pregnant is trolling in my opinion because its not possible and we know it because we cannot do it.

I suppose the dreamers have a right to believe it,however it cannot be proven and therefore cannot be spoken about in absolutes.

Then why be a Buddhist, since the same could be said about Buddhist biographies of Siddhartha. You're being a hypocrite.

 

[buadum]

Then why be a Buddhist, since the same could be said about Buddhist biographies of Siddhartha. You're being a hypocrite.

Beleive what your senses tell you,just because teachers or texts say something is TRUE does not make it so.

even if Buddha says so it is not unless it makes sense and can be proven according to Buddhist scripture.

Hardly the same now is it.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Beleive what your senses tell you,just because teachers or texts say something is TRUE does not make it so.

even if Buddha says so it is not unless it makes sense and can be proven according to Buddhist scripture.

Hardly the same now is it.

You've contradicted yourself. In the first sentence, you say not to trust what the teachers or texts say but in the second sentence, say not to believe anything unless Buddhist scripture can bear it out.

 

[buadum]

It is not hypocritical to dispute the validity of a pregnant virgin.

 

[halokitty]

Virgin I take to mean that it was either Mary's first time on earth. Her first time she gave birth. Or the first time she gave birth to God. The second time she won't be a virgin. The messages aren't important or relevant to what has happened at the time. The messages are for the recipient to understand. When they come back they will know exactly what it means. That's why the messages cannot change no matter how ridiculous or unreasonable they sound. But they have haven't they? Hopefully not much or original copies are still around?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

It is not hypocritical to dispute the validity of a pregnant virgin.

It is when your own religion is based on things that you can't prove happened.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Virgin I take to mean that it was either Mary's first time on earth. Her first time she gave birth. Or the first time she gave birth to God. The second time she won't be a virgin.

Where are you getting this from?

It just means that she was a virgin in terms of sexual activity. There's no reason to stretch or twist it.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I have every right to call people out on something that cannot be proven,or cannot be done.

I believe she got pregnant and told her husband a rediculous story to avoid a good stoning,he convinced himself it was TRUE for fear of losing his lady.

Reality, Mary was playing around.

:beach: Oh, the hypocrisy ...

 

[Me Myself]

I believe its possible Mary was a virgin.

What can I tell you? I believe in miracles.

 

[Me Myself]

You've contradicted yourself. In the first sentence, you say not to trust what the teachers or texts say but in the second sentence, say not to believe anything unless Buddhist scripture can bear it out.

So you're still a hypocrite.

You missed the point, but that might be because he wrote it in a way that is easy to confuse when seeing with a mainstream christian mind frame.

He didnt mean ghat if Buddhist scripture says so then that is evidence. He meant that Buddhist scripture tells you not to believe on something just because a teacher tells you.

In other words, Buddhist scripture and the Buddha himself tells you to doubt freely, and just take whatever makes sense to you.

He can very well not even believe buddha existed, but still consider himself a buddhist because he follows the buddhist method of getting rid of suffering.

 

[psychoslice]

The virgin only means that place within that has not been touched by the outside world, thisbisnwhere the inner Christ is born, and that place is within all of us.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

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What does this have to do with anything?

 

[halokitty]

What does this have to do with anything?

Don't tell me what to do.

 

[buadum]

You've contradicted yourself. In the first sentence, you say not to trust what the teachers or texts say but in the second sentence, say not to believe anything unless Buddhist scripture can bear it out.

So you're still a hypocrite.

No I did not say anything of the sort, Buddhist scripture,Hindu,Christian, whatever, only to be believed if it makes sense to your senses.

Nothing wrong with believing only what can be proven,that's what Buddha said, you however put it on par with Christianity which is faith based.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Don't tell me what to do.

:areyoucra

 

[buadum]

You missed the point, but that might be because he wrote it in a way that is easy to confuse when seeing with a mainstream christian mind frame.

He didnt mean ghat if Buddhist scripture says so then that is evidence. He meant that Buddhist scripture tells you not to believe on something just because a teacher tells you.

In other words, Buddhist scripture and the Buddha himself tells you to doubt freely, and just take whatever makes sense to you.

He can very well not even believe buddha existed, but still consider himself a buddhist because he follows the buddhist method of getting rid of suffering.

Exactly,

 

[Thana]

Does anyone here actually believe Mary was a virgin,please tell me it isn't so.

I believe she got pregnant and told her husband a rediculous story to avoid a good stoning,he convinced himself it was TRUE for fear of losing his lady.

Reality, Mary was playing around.

I wouldn't say this to a Catholic

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I wouldn't say this to a Catholic

Meh. It's nothing that many of us haven't heard before. Doesn't change my belief on the matter.

 

[Me Myself]

Don't tell me what to do.

Don't tell him what not to do.

p)