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The Wall Street Protests

Rakhel

Rakhel

Well-Known Member
The protesters are idiots at best. they thought and still think, that they can bring about their own version of Arab Spring. The problem is is that they have no point. no cause.
They were arrested because they didn't heed the NYPD's verbal command to vacate the road way and stop blocking traffic. This basically boils down to a misdemeanor. Most likely disturbing the peace.

Some are saying the cops mislead them while others are saying that the more aggressive protesters are trying to make the protest more than it really is. That the protesters that were arrested, were arrested because they, themselves, decided to walk in front of cars rather than the walkway provided.
 
T-Dawg

T-Dawg

Self-appointed Lunatic
From what most of the articles described, it sounded like either the police officers didn't give adequate warning to the protesters (who incorrectly thought that the police officers were leading them to where they were supposed to go), or the protesters simply failed to hear the officers. I don't think that makes them criminals worthy of violent retribution (although it might make them fools).

Their cause appears to be pretty disorganized, from the looks of it. It looks like a broad appeal to "anything but this," and those movements never seem to go well. The movements of history that get remembered generally had specific aims - the nobles of England wanted a set of rules that the king could not violate without their consent, the Americans in 1776 wanted an independent nation, the bourgeoisie of France wanted free enterprise and equality before the law, the Bolsheviks of Russia wanted communism, etc. The Arab Spring, from what I know of it, comes from individual movements against individual leaders - and as bad as the US might be, it's not what Gaddafi or Mubarak was. Here, as you've pointed out we're protesting a generic group of people for a generic purpose. From the looks of it, these protesters are doomed to fail eventually. I don't think that makes them idiots, though, unless naive optimism counts as idiocy (or blunt determination, whatever it is they have). For lack of a better comparison, they appear to be left-wing Tea Partiers - they have a strong but vague determination against what they perceive to be the current system and have a loosely organized set of ideals to replace it (to their credit, their views of what the current system is and what their ideals are seem to be much more accurate and reasonable than the Tea Party's).
 
Rakhel

Rakhel

Well-Known Member
The Tea Party at least has some sort of an agenda. These guys are just here to party.
 
T-Dawg

T-Dawg

Self-appointed Lunatic
Rakhel said:
The Tea Party at least has some sort of an agenda. These guys are just here to party.
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Possibly. They seem to have a general vague agenda that involves corporations being evil, but they do seem to be putting a lot of value into the idea of the protest itself. I don't get the impression that most of them are just there to party - from what the stories suggested, the main attraction is, ironically enough, the police brutality.

I do hope they know enough about corporations so as not to make other leftists look foolish.
 
Rakhel

Rakhel

Well-Known Member
Well I'll be posting more news articles from the local papers tomorrow.
I haven't seen the face book page, or the twitter(if the have one). But to be honest, the only reason they got such news coverage is because they blocked traffic, not only on the bridge but in Manhattan as well. Hell the fact that I didn't know that Susan Surandan attended should tell you how little their protest means here.
 
Kathryn

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
One thing's for sure - neither the Tea Partiers OR the 99ers are very appealing to me.

The Tea Partiers do seem a bit more hygenic, though.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Kathryn said:
And you know what - the same photo is included in the definition for "sanctimonious" too!
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Ever notice how lately she looks like Galactic Emperor Palpatine?
And you never see them in a room at the same time.

Ugh, I"m terrible.....no more dissing her appearance.
 
Kathryn

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
It's kind of like hosting an anarchist convention - or herding cats.

Sometimes a little organization is a good thing.
 
HiddenDjinn

HiddenDjinn

Well-Known Member
It's My Birthday!
Let's see what we have so far...
Those who wanted to paint the Tea Party in a bad light put up a photo of them holding a parade, with proper permits, where "Occupy Wall Street" hasn't bothered applying for any such permits.
"Occupy Wall Street" is in the wrong part of town to annoy any of the stock brokers who squandered this country's financial security(only one investment bank on Wall St.).
A bunch of people want to feel good about a group of annoying midwesterners camping on private property, without a permit, and definitely without a permit for campfires(good luck with that, btw), and promising to stay all winter(we're going have hippysickles, yay).
These people are going to accomplish nothing more than add to the per capita "hey man, got a cigarette?"
Take them to your ******* city if you think they're so great.
 
Falvlun

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
It might not be pretty, it might not be organized, and it might not work, but it's way the hell better than apathy.
 
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