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The watchmaker

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I'm like you guys here. You claim that you - not you Fly, but some of you - can prove there is no God.
You apparently prove it by your reasoning, and evidence, and I do the same. It doesn't mean we have proved it to the world.

However, evolution is not based on solid evidence. It is based on evidence that is gathered in support of it. Evidence that has not, and cannot be verified... and please, I am not referring to adaptation, which does not refute creation evidence.

Are you denying that the evidence is asserted? Then please provide me with one piece of unassuming evidence, and please, do not post a link to a whole page, as was done above. pull out one piece of evidence that I can focus on.

Thank you.
So you still have no clue as to what is and what is not evidence. I can help you with this problem of yours.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
You're still dodging. You've claimed that you've disproved evolutionary theory. Where did you do that?
I'm the one dodging? I don't think so. I answered you. Why do you keep repeating?
What's propping up your beloved theory?
 

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
I'm the one dodging? I don't think so.
Then you're not paying attention.

You claimed that you can "easily" disprove evolutionary theory. When I asked you to do so, you claimed that you had already done it. And now that I'm asking where you did it, you refuse to say.

Do you not see the problem?

I answered you. Why do you keep repeating?
Now you're not telling the truth. I've asked you where you disproved evolutionary theory and you have refused to say. That's simply a matter of record.

You can easily put this whole thing to bed by simply showing where you've done what you claimed.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Then you're not paying attention.

You claimed that you can "easily" disprove evolutionary theory. When I asked you to do so, you claimed that you had already done it. And now that I'm asking where you did it, you refuse to say.

Do you not see the problem?


Now you're not telling the truth. I've asked you where you disproved evolutionary theory and you have refused to say. That's simply a matter of record.

You can easily put this whole thing to bed by simply showing where you've done what you claimed.

Wait wait . . . I know the answer . .. he disproved evolution on the internet!! Checkmate atheists!!
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
Then you're not paying attention.

You claimed that you can "easily" disprove evolutionary theory. When I asked you to do so, you claimed that you had already done it. And now that I'm asking where you did it, you refuse to say.

Do you not see the problem?


Now you're not telling the truth. I've asked you where you disproved evolutionary theory and you have refused to say. That's simply a matter of record.

You can easily put this whole thing to bed by simply showing where you've done what you claimed.
When you read this, what did you understand from it?
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
You find a watch on a deserted beach. You pick it up, and notice all the intricate parts. That's an interesting watch...

Almost every mystic religion recorded in history claims objective reality is a delusion including the idea of time. The teaching says there is no separation between reality and consciousness, and therefore, only someone who is not very intelligent about true nature of reality would ever create a watch in the first place.
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
You find a watch on a deserted beach. You pick it up, and notice all the intricate parts. That's an interesting watch...

Everyone knows living things are not designed by humans. Only simple things are designed by humans. To get really complex designs like the ones we see in living things you need billions of years of time tested variations leading to the most efficient improvements and complexities of organizations. So when you find a whale laying on the beach you immediately know it wasn't something designed by man but something created by the mind of nature.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
A series of empty assertions that anyone with access to the internet can make. Are you claiming that that post is where you "easily" disproved evolutionary theory?
If that's all you got from it then.... why do you keep questioning me?
Do you want more assertions?
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
So you still have no clue as to what is and what is not evidence. I can help you with this problem of yours.

Wow, what an amazing thing to say. Do you make objective judgments or subjective judgments on "what is" and "what is not evidence". How do you know your opinions are facts? Does your left leg start shaking or is it just a warm feeling in your vagus nerves like you've been touched by God or something?
 

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
If that's all you got from it then.... why do you keep questioning me?
Because you made a very bold claim, i.e., that you can "easily" disprove evolutionary theory. Are you upset that someone would follow up that assertion with a request that you do what you said you could do?

Do you want more assertions?
I want you to engage in a discussion in a way that doesn't resemble a guilty defendant on the witness stand. If you really do believe that you can "easily" disprove evolutionary theory, then do so and stop dodging every request for you to do it. If you really do believe that you've already done what you claimed, then show where you did it and stop dodging every request for you to show where you did.

And you didn't answer the question.....Are you claiming that the post you linked to is where you "easily" disproved evolutionary theory?
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
Because you made a very bold claim, i.e., that you can "easily" disprove evolutionary theory. Are you upset that someone would follow up that assertion with a request that you do what you said you could do?


I want you to engage in a discussion in a way that doesn't resemble a guilty defendant on the witness stand. If you really do believe that you can "easily" disprove evolutionary theory, then do so and stop dodging every request for you to do it. If you really do believe that you've already done what you claimed, then show where you did it and stop dodging every request for you to show where you did.

And you didn't answer the question.....Are you claiming that the post you linked to is where you "easily" disproved evolutionary theory?
Me? Upset? Not at all. :)
Bewildered? Definitely - at the fact that the only way you can give an answer for your beloved propped up theory, is to find a distraction to focus on, and repeatedly attack, then go in circles, as though you love merry-go-rounds - which I don't, instead of dealing with what is at the root of the debate.

Did I not ask you what you understood from the post? What was your response? So what am I supposed to do now?

No worries. i have been through this before. You have nothing.
So I totally understand. :)
 

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
Me? Upset? Not at all. :)
Bewildered? Definitely - at the fact that the only way you can give an answer for your beloved propped up theory, is to find a distraction to focus on, and repeatedly attack, then go in circles, as though you love merry-go-rounds - which I don't, instead of dealing with what is at the root of the debate.

Did I not ask you what you understood from the post? What was your response? So what am I supposed to do now?

No worries. i have been through this before. You have nothing.
So I totally understand. :)
So basically your claim that you can disprove evolutionary theory was not true. Your claim that you have disproved evolutionary theory was also not true.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Me? Upset? Not at all. :)
Bewildered? Definitely - at the fact that the only way you can give an answer for your beloved propped up theory, is to find a distraction to focus on, and repeatedly attack, then go in circles, as though you love merry-go-rounds - which I don't, instead of dealing with what is at the root of the debate.

Did I not ask you what you understood from the post? What was your response? So what am I supposed to do now?

No worries. i have been through this before. You have nothing.
So I totally understand. :)
.Projection again. As usual it is the creationist that has nothing.
 

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
Yes, it's simply a matter of record. You not only claimed that you can disprove evolutionary theory, you also claimed that you already have disproved evolutionary theory. But as soon as you were asked to show where you did so, you dodged and refused to say.

That speaks for itself.

But how would you know, if all you read were assumptions?
What in the world are you talking about?
 
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