The Westernization of Iraq

[Cooky]

I thought Michael Faraday invented the electric generator.

Thomas Edison invented workable mass electric generation... A whole other ball game, 100 times more complex.

...But hey, at least there's a way @Amanaki and @Komori can get power without being a hypocrite. But then, if they hate Western culture as a whole, then they can't even do that. So...

 

[sooda]

Trump's plan to seize Iraq's oil: 'It's not stealing, we're reimbursing ourselves'

Trump is a fool. He's never read an oil concession agreement ..We aren't thieves. The oil business HATES a war zone.

 

[Komori]

As you type on your computer.

America was founded by Westerners, and is Western through and through. So if you hate America, then you hate the West.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Thomas Edison invented workable mass electric generation... A whole other ball game, 100 times more complex.

...But hey, at least there's a way @Amanaki and @Komori can get power without being a hypocrite.

Also an entirely different point from the invention of the electric generator. One that required that the electric generator exist in order to carry out.

 

[Cooky]

I'm not the one saying electronic music and motorcycles are evil, because "America".

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Thomas Edison invented workable mass electric generation... A whole other ball game, 100 times more complex.

...But hey, at least there's a way @Amanaki and @Komori can get power without being a hypocrite. But then, if they hate Western culture as a whole, then they can't even do that. So...

It would also be an example of how European ideas, inventions and culture have shaped this country. I see the proliferation and growth of some very positive ideas from European countries that are being espoused in this one. Cultural exchange can be bad or good. And can drive innovation and growth or lead to the obscurity of the native culture. But these things move back and forth and the old culture can resurface in various ways.

Here in the US we have been rocked by the proliferation of outdated 19th Century US cultural ideas. The sort of contamination that some fear can take place even within the dominant culture from the past of that culture.

 

[David1967]

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The "Summer Festival" in Baghdad is the first celebration of its kind in the city

"I love this type of music," said Layan, a 19-year-old woman in a leather black top and full makeup.

"I hear a lot of people say that we're influenced by the West. Fine, there's no difference to me -- the important thing is I don't have to listen to this music at home in secret anymore," she said, pumping her fist into the air.

Just a few years ago, the sound of staccato gunfire or the echo of car bombs was more common in Baghdad than the resounding bass of electronic music.

Beats replace bombs: young Iraqis revel at summer festival

...So much for ISIS.

Good for them!

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I'm not the one saying electronic music and motorcycles are evil, because "America".

Electronic dance music, house music and the like are inherently evil. It's true. No getting around it. Only good old Rock and Roll is going to save the World. Ask Dio and Dee Snider. Well, Dee anyway.

 

[David1967]

It is sad to see that the West (USA) made Iraq into a western country with the filth from Western culture instead of the local culture. why must West force other part of the world to be "more like Us" ???

IMO, it's more likely a case of tasting freedom and deciding it's much better than living under a theocratic dictatorship.

 

[Cooky]

It would also be an example of how European ideas, inventions and culture have shaped this country. I see the proliferation and growth of some very positive ideas from European countries that are being espoused in this one. Cultural exchange can be bad or good. And can drive innovation and growth or lead to the obscurity of the native culture. But these things move back and forth and the old culture can resurface in various ways.

Here in the US we have been rocked by the proliferation of outdated 19th Century US cultural ideas. The sort of contamination that some fear can take place even within the dominant culture from the past of that culture.

Yup, I agree. Note how the title of the thread says "Westernization".

 

[David1967]

Electronic dance music, house music and the like are inherently evil. It's true. No getting around it. Only good old Rock and Roll is going to save the World. Ask Dio and Dee Snider. Well, Dee anyway.

Ronnie James Dio, rest in peace. My favorite vocalist period.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Trump is a fool. He's never read an oil concession agreement ..We aren't thieves. The oil business HATES a war zone.

It is hard to claim that a royal family with a net worth of $1.5 trillion, largely from oil, is being robbed. Now what they are doing with their own people is another issue.

 

[Cooky]

Electronic dance music, house music and the like are inherently evil. It's true. No getting around it. Only good old Rock and Roll is going to save the World. Ask Dio and Dee Snider. Well, Dee anyway.

I happen to like both.
...As well as others, including Classical Indian, Boroque, etc. This is Merica bruh... we got it all.

Electronic chill

LIVE MUSIC

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Ronnie James Dio, rest in peace. My favorite vocalist period.

One of my favorites too. What a powerful voice.

 

[David1967]

One of my favorites too. What a powerful voice.

What a loss. Can't believe it's been nearly a decade.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I happen to like both.
...As well as others, including Classical Indian, Boroque, etc. This is Merica bruh... we got it all.

Electronic chill

LIVE MUSIC

And since it is America, I can choose not to listen to what I do not care for and just crank up some old Deep Purple, Queen, Who, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Motorhead, Judas Priest,...oh crap. They're all British aren't they. I'm contaminated.

 

[sooda]

It is hard to claim that a royal family with a net worth of $1.5 trillion, largely from oil, is being robbed. Now what they are doing with their own people is another issue.

Who are you talking about? 84% of all oil revenue in Saudi Arabia is invested in healthcare, education, housing, clean water, power generation and infrastructure development.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

What a loss. Can't believe it's been nearly a decade.

It only seems like yesterday.

Thankfully, I can still enjoy the legacy left behind.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Who are you talking about? 84% of all oil revenue in Saudi Arabia is invested in healthcare, education, housing, clean water, power generation and infrastructure development.

The Saudi Royal family has an estimated net worth of 1.5 trillion dollars, so it is difficult to claim that they are the victims of robbery. That was my point. That and I do not know how much gets to the average Saudi citizen. If you are saying they get a lot, then their leaders are doing better for them, than ours are.

 

[Cooky]

And since it is America, I can choose not to listen to what I do not care for and just crank up some old Deep Purple, Queen, Who, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Motorhead, Judas Priest,...oh crap. They're all British aren't they. I'm contaminated.

I have some British blood. I hope I'm not contaminated.

...I'm Old English, more Irish than the Irish.