The whole Bible is not from God

[Muffled]

" The whole Bible is not from God."

I also agree with one here.
People belonging to Hellenist-Pauline Christianity have been thinking about this matter for a long time and now Catholics, Protestants and Messianic Israelites have published Red Letter Bibles*
to facilitate in this connection, please. Right?
In these Bibles they have colored in red letters all the stuff that is supposedly/tentatively and or that which might have been said by (Jesus) Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah, one gets to know, please. Right?
One can, therefore, straightaway ignore/reject what is in black letters in these Bibles as it is not from (Jesus) Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah and cannot provide meaningful guidance in ethical, moral and spiritual issues of humanity, rather it could create confusion in the minds of those who want to follow Yeshua, I understand, please. Right?

Regards
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*
Holy Bible King James Version (Red Letter Edition)
The Roman Catholic Holy Bible with the words of Jesus in red.
World Messianic Bible

I believe people who do not believe in Gods word are working against God.

 

[Muffled]

When can we expect the big Abrahamic Council that discusses the matter and publishes the revised and correct version?

My wife use to say that it was the Bible according to Glenn which is my name. No doubt others have had contrary views of it.

 

[Brian2]

The problem I have is this: although I don't believe in God, I believe that deliberately killing innocent people is quite wrong.

You, on the other hand, surrender all such thoughts when they apply to God. For you, if God decided to crush all of your family except yourself under his thumb, and leave their crushed bodies with guts tumbling out onto your carpet, you would think it must be right because God did it.

I cannot accept that. Period, end of story. But that is precisely what God is said to have done in many places throughout the Bible, and so you don't think anything is wrong. For you, you believe that God has an absolute right to do whatever cruel thing to you that he likes, and he would still be righteous. To me, that would require me to live in perpetual terror -- and I could never, even in my wildest dreams, worship anything that I had to spend my life in fear of.

More to my point, I believe that it would be wrong -- even for God -- to deliberately cause suffering and death to innocents. Now, there is nothing to say that a deity must always be good, but I maintain that the deity that does evil is evil itself, and therefore not worthy of worship.

In any case, since I don't believe in deities any more than I believe in fairies at the bottom of my garden, I have nothing to worry about.

In the process of judgement of groups of people God probably has killed and caused suffering to the innocent.
At the time the alternative would probably have been for children to be left alone to fend for themselves etc
It could rightly be said that the Lord gives and the Lord takes away and has the right to do that.
Whether that will end up with God treating some people unjustly will depend on what the final judgement is and on what those innocents are experiencing now in the afterlife.
I try not to judge God before having all the evidence, and you don't believe in God and seem to want to judge before having all the evidence.
But of course I believe in God and give God the benefit of the doubt and you do not believe in God and the benefit of the doubt probably does not even come into it. I imagine it's a case of God is just evil because there is no afterlife and because God puts Himself above His own rules which He gives us humans, as if He is something special with more rights than us humans.

 

[paarsurrey]

Did Holy Spirit claim to have authored Bible, please? Right?
If yes, then kindly quote from the Holy Spirit, please. Right?
or
Is it only one's accusation against the Holy Spirit, please? Right?

If (Jesus) Yeshua did not claim to be almighty God in a straightforward manner. Right?

If Holy Ghost did not claim to be almighty God in a straightforward manner. Right?
Then what right the Hellenist-Pauline-Christianity people had to claim God-Head for Yeshua and or the Holy Ghost , please? Right?
Isn't it an accusation on Yeshua and or the Holy Ghost, please?
Right?

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

The whole Bible is not from God

The whole Bible is neither the Word that was revealed on Jesus by G-d (the father), to a lesser level even the whole of it is neither written by Jesus nor authored by Jesus nor spoken by Jesus nor dictated by Jesus to anybody and even to still a lesser level nor recorded by anybody (known by his own name) who was a witness to its events, one may say, please. Right?

Regards

 

[John D. Brey]

The whole Bible is not from God

The whole Bible is neither the Word that was revealed on Jesus by G-d (the father), to a lesser level even the whole of it is neither written by Jesus nor authored by Jesus nor spoken by Jesus nor dictated by Jesus to anybody and even to still a lesser level nor recorded by anybody (known by his own name) who was a witness to its events, one may say, please. Right?

Regards

This reminds me of the famous atheist scientist, Frank J. Tipler, who said he would be willing to at least give the Gospels a serious reading/hearing if anyone could prove that they were an eyewitness account of the events they proclaimed. The famous German theologian, Wolfhart Pannenberg, took Tipler up on the challenge.

They got together and Pannenberg laid out the proofs that the Gospels are a historical eyewitness account of the events they proclaim. Tipler, a careful physicist, examined all the evidence, and did some research of his own.

He disappeared for a time and when he returned he wrote a book called The Physics of Christianity. In the preface to the book, he proclaimed himself to now be a Christian. By his own account, once he believed eyewitnesses wrote the Gospel, he had cause to consider what they proclaimed, when he considered the proclamation, he made one of his own; the glorious proclamation of faith in Christ.



John

 

[paarsurrey]

This reminds me of the famous atheist scientist, Frank J. Tipler, who said he would be willing to at least give the Gospels a serious reading/hearing if anyone could prove that they were an eyewitness account of the events they proclaimed. The famous German theologian, Wolfhart Pannenberg, took Tipler up on the challenge.

They got together and Pannenberg laid out the proofs that the Gospels are a historical eyewitness account of the events they proclaim. Tipler, a careful physicist, examined all the evidence, and did some research of his own.

He disappeared for a time and when he returned he wrote a book called The Physics of Christianity. In the preface to the book, he proclaimed himself to now be a Christian. By his own account, once he believed eyewitnesses wrote the Gospel, he had cause to consider what they proclaimed, when he considered the proclamation, he made one of his own; the glorious proclamation of faith in Christ.

John

But (Jesus) Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah won't agree with " Pannenberg " for sure, as there are:

1. no eye-witnesses worth the name and there cannot be any of the event of
2. Yeshua dying on the Cross
3. and rising from the dead as per the Hellenism concept
4. and ascending to heaven
5. and sitting on the right hand of G-d

since it never happened, I understand, please. Right?

Regards

 

[Wildswanderer]

The whole Bible is not from God. Some people who wrote parts of the Bible were wrong about God. God has never asked us humans to kill each other.

Yes many parts of the Bible is from God, but some parts of the Bible is not from God

How to know what is from God in the Bible? That is simple. God is love and just. What is against love and justice is not from God. God is against killing innocent people.

Any thoughts? Do you agree og disagree?

Killing sometimes is justified. Only God has the ability to perfectly judge who should live and who should die.
But much of the Bible is history. Just because something happened in history doesn't mean it was good or ideal.
It wasn't God who made man turn to evil so man brought judgement on himself.
All the Bible is true.

 

[John D. Brey]

But (Jesus) Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah won't agree with " Pannenberg " for sure, as there are:

1. no eye-witnesses worth the name and there cannot be any of the event of
2. Yeshua dying on the Cross
3. and rising from the dead as per the Hellenism concept
4. and ascending to heaven
5. and sitting on the right hand of G-d

since it never happened, I understand, please. Right?

Regards

I'm sorry paarsurrey. No. No, you really don't appear to understand at all.



John

 

[PearlSeeker]

The whole Bible is not from God. Some people who wrote parts of the Bible were wrong about God. God has never asked us humans to kill each other.

Yes many parts of the Bible is from God, but some parts of the Bible is not from God

How to know what is from God in the Bible? That is simple. God is love and just. What is against love and justice is not from God. God is against killing innocent people.

Any thoughts? Do you agree og disagree?

To me the Bible is a collection of legends and myths. It contains legitimation of grave violence and it also contains wisdom and positive message. But the sacred text doesn't demythologize itself. It is believed to be the authoritative Word of God beyond human questioning and reason. This is what makes it potentially harmful and delusional.