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Get real. Not even a fifth-grader would buy this one.
The closest this comes to having any relevance to my comment is that av is pretty good on the guitar.
Ah! So you did like it.
So it's that difficult to dismiss me. WOW! Almost makes me proud.
Almost. Thank you. There's a litany of errors in your argument, and they are both factual and logical. You didn't bother to even get enough information to pretend like yoj knew what you were talking about and then combined two complex ideas from two different religions as if they were similar enough to compare."Petty agenda"? Please keep in mind who initiated the subject of the nature of Jewish Hell:
I was content with never having to look into it---I don't really care about the particulars---but because angellous_evangellous didn't know how to find the answer to his question, and I had the time, I thought I'd help out the poor guy.
That I didn't described it to your liking is too bad (please give it a shot if it makes you feel better), but my interest was in keeping my answer confined to the description of hell, and nothing else. That you feel I should have gone into more is your problem (it obviously bothers you), but that's the lay of the land JS. Hope you can get over it.
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FIRST of all, it wasn't an argument, but a statement. Secondly, it's sufficient that there exists a reasonable commonality between the descriptions of the Christian hell and the descriptions of the Jewish hell. Enough, in fact, to say, "Quite unlike the hell of Christianity and Judaism." Now, it may have been more correct to say "the hells of . . . ." but in light of the context I don't consider it a meaningful difference. That you prefer to make this mole hill into a mountain is interesting, but, other than answering my two questions below, not enough to pursue the issue beyond this post.
And just what misunderstanding is that? And what did I make up?
Where the hell is my video.
Here it is. Your favorite no less. And, yes, we are all attuned to your needs.
Only there really isn't. The "Jewish hell" in antiquity and the early rabbinic period was more equivalent to that of the Greeks: afterlife in the form of a shadowy, dismal underworld. There is no currently widely adopted Jewish belief about "hell"/hellish or the afterlife more generally. The Torah (in the specific sense of the Books of Moses, not God's law more generally), the 2nd temple literature, the Mishnah, and the Gemara contain little in the way of references to the afterlife that are unambiguous and what does exists suggest that either there is none or it is all hell (there do exist references to resurrection and some passages that scholars such as Philip Johnston have interpreted as "heavenly", but these are scant, outnumbered by contrary statements, and hardly unambiguous). Whereas Christian theology quickly borrowed from Greek philosophy and was from its inception eschatological and teleological, even after the final destruction of the temple Jewish religious thought simply placed more emphasis on religious text and in place of the "philosophical theology" of Christianity developed a tradition of jurisprudence (not dissimilar to that within Islam).
God gave Adam and Eve the commission to fill, not overflow the earth. "Further, God blessed them, and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth." (Genesis 1:28) The earth has much more than enough capacity to accommodate everyone who has ever lived.
Once A&E produce Cain and Abel all subsequent births would have been out of their hands.
Now that's down right naive.
This doesn't answer my question.
Fine, then tell me where to find an explanation for why he finds it necessary to "satisfying his own standard of perfect justice and righteousness," as you claim.
I can go along with this. It actually sounds reasonable.
Which I assume would not include eternal punishment.
Curious as why god would need Jesus as an intermediary.
But as I've pointed out to others, a lot of people, most now dead, never heard of this means of salvation, or were never convinced they had to believe in Jesus as their lord and savior in order to be saved. Fair?
Why is it necessary to know god's mercy? Isn't it enough that when we get to the pearly gates and the sorting begins that his mercy will be quite evident . . . .or not?
So what is he waiting for? Billions of people have lived and died not knowing any of this justice and peace that is gathering dust on the shelf. Is he waiting for mankind to reach some kind of critical mass?
"The exact number of humans who have ever lived is unknown to humans. However, by way of illustration, if Jehovah resurrects 20 billion (20,000,000,000) people, there would be no problem as to living space and food for them. The land surface of the earth at present is about 148,000,000 sq km (57,000,000 sq mi), or about 14,800,000,000 ha (36,500,000,000 acres). Even allowing half of that to be set aside for other uses, there would be more than a third of a hectare (almost 1 acre) for each person. As to earth’s potential food production, a third of a hectare will actually provide much more than enough food for one person, especially when, as God has demonstrated in the case of the nation of Israel, there is abundance of food as a result of God’s blessing.—1Ki 4:20; Eze 34:27.
I don't know why. I think waiting could be one of God's mistakes.
