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Theistic Evolution?

SkepticThinker

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Jonathan Ainsley Bain said:
Are you claiming that abortions are not being harvested for stem cells?
And if you do claim this, then what are the ethical reasons why an atheist would not actually do so?
And if there are no such reasons, then one must surely conclude that they are !!
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I'm not claiming anything. You have claimed things. You claimed that atheists promote abortion "simply to harvest stem cells" (which differs from what you have said above here).

I'm asking you to provide evidence for your claims.
It shouldn't be this difficult.
 
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NewChapter

GiveMeATicketToWork
Deidre said:
Just curious as to your thoughts on this. Often, people believe in either/or. Either one believes in the theory of evolution or believes in creationism. But, is it acceptable for lack of a better word, for a Christian to believe that God is the impetus behind Darwin's theory of evolution? Or, is this why ''theistic evolution'' came about? (in order for there to be a bridge (of sorts) between both schools of thought)

Looking forward to your thoughts on the topic.
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Hey De,

I hope that you are enjoying your day so far! :)

I disbelieve in evolution...why aren't monkeys or apes (etc.) continuing to "evolve" today?
 
ImmortalFlame

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
NewChapter said:
I disbelieve in evolution...why aren't monkeys or apes (etc.) continuing to "evolve" today?
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Simple answer is: they are. As is all life, really.

To be more specific: Humans didn't evolve *from* the types of apes we see today. Both humans and other apes share a common ancestor. This means that we both evolved separately and simultaneously alongside each other. It's similar to the relationship between you and your cousins - you both come from the same family (linked by, say, your grandparents), but are the result of two families separating from that line and producing children separately. The only real difference is the amount of time and the number of generations.

As for things "continuing" to evolve; they do! In animals such as apes, however, real discernible evolutionary change would only become apparent over countless generations - far too long for humans to observe directly. But evolutionary change does still affect populations of apes, as well as other animals, it's just that the changes are very small and happen very slowly. Even human populations continue to evolve depending on their surroundings.

Here is an excellent website on human evolution by the Smithsonian:
http://humanorigins.si.edu/education/intro-human-evolution
 
LuisDantas

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
@NewChapter - you may not "buy it", but that is nothing more than sitting on the lack of knowledge of the actual facts.

Like it or not, evolution is not a matter of belief, and has not been since the early 20th century at least.
 
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NewChapter

GiveMeATicketToWork
LuisDantas said:
@NewChapter - you may not "buy it", but that is nothing more than sitting on the lack of knowledge of the actual facts.

Like it or not, evolution is not a matter of belief, and has not been since the early 20th century at least.
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Maybe you have an argument that I can follow as for why aren't apes, monkeys, or whichever currently "evolving" into humans today?
 
LuisDantas

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
It gets tiresome... the evidence is plentiful and, I don't mind telling upfront, I am just not up to actually understanding most of it.

I direct you to http://www.religiousforums.com/thre...-tutorials-on-the-theory-of-evolution.100967/

But really, it is not even an actual dispute. The findings are consistent, strongly scrutinized, and overseen by plenty of people who would like nothing better than to find shocking flaws and earn some fame from it.

I find it disappointing that anti-evolutionists (so-called "Creationists", which I find an infortunate misnaming) think so little of just pretending that such is not the case.
 
LuisDantas

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
To be fair, I think he may have said that atheism (not atheists) lack ethics.

Still a naive a thing to say, but technically sort of true.
 
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