theists attack atheism because they are insecure

[The magical volleyball]

if all 7billion souls cross over into the next life......and there is no One in charge....
we stand into chaos

bad enough here with Man's desire to dominate all things.....including each other

there would be no peace in heaven without God

I believe the peace of heaven is guarded
not all are allowed to enter

If there is an afterlife why would there be chaos in heaven without god. I assumed theists always believed that the soul was eternal and was without human needs? Why would chaos be the most rational thing for eternal beings? What sort of chaos can souls create?

If not all people are allowed into heaven and there are multiple conflicting ideas about what grants you access to heaven, then why do you think you will be granted access over anyone else? Isn't just as likely that your wrong and they are right and all your faith and devotion was for nothing, all because you were born in the wrong part of the world, at the wrong point in history and made the one fatal mistake of worshipping the wrong god?

 

[Thief]

If there is an afterlife why would there be chaos in heaven without god. I assumed theists always believed that the soul was eternal and was without human needs? Why would chaos be the most rational thing for eternal beings? What sort of chaos can souls create?

If not all people are allowed into heaven and there are multiple conflicting ideas about what grants you access to heaven, then why do you think you will be granted access over anyone else? Isn't just as likely that your wrong and they are right and all your faith and devotion was for nothing, all because you were born in the wrong part of the world, at the wrong point in history and made the one fatal mistake of worshipping the wrong god?

we end up sharing our dreams......

and with no One in control.....chaos

 

[Corvus]

so....you would critique anyone but your mother and even then......
you say she is scientifically illiterate

you say believers could expand by the click of a mouse on the internet
but you are focused trying to convince your mother you are right

and it seems that's not really working out for you

and now here you are
pleading a lack of intellect ......on the internet forum

What? That made no sense, I could not decipher it, but I don't really care to be honest what your opinion is. I am sure whatever your opinion is, it's not relevant to what I posted.

 

[Desert Snake]

What? That made no sense, I could not decipher it, but I don't really care to be honest what your opinion is. I am sure whatever your opinion is, it's not relevant to what I posted.

The question is, is your opinion, relevant to what you posted

 

[leibowde84]

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

Exactly, this is the assumption based on other assumptions you are making that I was pointing out. So, it seems ludicrous for you to hypocritically accuse me of doing the same.

 

[leibowde84]

I believe in God for cause.....other than scripture

now what do you say?

I say, that is a lot better than just taking scripture as 100% accurate or "god-breathed" without demonstrable evidence and basing your beliefs on it.

 

[leibowde84]

Agnostic christian is a pretense, and all your arguments are atheistic based.

The classification Agnostic Christian doesn't really apply to me anymore. At least for the time being. My beliefs these days are pretty fluid.

 

[Desert Snake]

The classification Agnostic Christian doesn't really apply to me anymore. At least for the time being. My beliefs these days are pretty fluid.

..noted

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

and with no One in control.....chaos

But how does Satan rebel in heaven if God is there?

 

[Thief]

But how does Satan rebel in heaven if God is there?

freewill

picture that you are in heaven....with God....and you can actually converse with Him

it may prove a one-sided discussion
it is alleged ...He already knows everything

but for the sake of being creative.....God (with help?) and the angels form ...Man
why?
more conversation
and a greater variety of spontaneous and unpredictable response

and then God said to the angelic....
Man is less than you are....and fragile
Therefore, seek after him that he dash not his toe, nor his head

and one third of the angelic (led by God's Favored).....said 'nay!'
That Man is less than we are....he should be made to serve us!

I see nothing wrong with that logic
but a fight broke out...swords drawn
Brother angel against brother angel

One third of heaven lost their positions for an argument over something that looks like us
They want us dead

Two thirds of heaven lost their brothers for an argument over something that looks like us
They might not care

and to whom?......do we bear resemblance

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

freewill

But then it's silly to promise that heaven will be free of chaos. It can't be promised, as freewill exists.

 

[Thief]

But then it's silly to promise that heaven will be free of chaos. It can't be promised, as freewill exists.

I would give you control of all that you touch.....
if I can trust you will do so in good faith

a stone to bread?
feed thousands at a moments notice
the blind see and the lame walk
the sick are relieved and the aggrieved are comforted

or would you dominate all things?
including your fellow man

would you take away freewill?......having received it for yourself

 

[McBell]

I believe in God for cause.....other than scripture

now what do you say?

Do you really want to delve into the dishonest way you use science to get you to your god then toss that science out the window like yesterdays garbage yet claim that science is why you believe in god?

 

[McBell]

and 7billion copies of learning device.....Man....
have no purpose?

Why not?
Out of curiosity, what purpose do you believe the 7 billion copies have?

or maybe the device is intended to generate a unique spirit on each occasion

or maybe the intentions and purposes are nothing more than revealed fears of the copies?

 

[McBell]

I would give you control of all that you touch.....
if I can trust you will do so in good faith

a stone to bread?
feed thousands at a moments notice
the blind see and the lame walk
the sick are relieved and the aggrieved are comforted

or would you dominate all things?
including your fellow man

would you take away freewill?......having received it for yourself

all of that and you did not address the post it was in reply to....