There are about 1000 gods. Is that evidence against God?

[blü 2]

well the latter argument would be a subject for a different thread.

So let's turn to the former.
I could invent another "creator gd" on the spot.
Maybe the people that lived in Canaan before were able to do so, too.
Moreover, it could be that the creation stories prior to Genesis also contain aspects of truth.

Perhaps the real phenomenon here is that while we find supernatural beliefs in all societies, advanced or primitive, those beliefs are independent of each other, and often enough in outright conflict as to the nature, number and rankings of their supernatural beings.

If a supernatural realm existed, with its own properties and system of government, we'd expect the great majority of reports of it to agree on its general outline and functions. Instead we get enormous variety, great incompatibilities, irreconcilable claims.

This suggests that religion is a cultural rather than a supernatural phenomenon, doesn't it? The "truth" of Christianity owes its success worldwide thanks to being imposed, often enough with much bloodshed, rather than being enlarged by any innate and persuasive "truth", no? The same is true of Islam, and in parts of Asia, Buddhism, and I'm confident there are countless examples of winning tribes imposing their religion on the conquered.

 

[paarsurrey]

Perhaps the real phenomenon here is that while we find supernatural beliefs in all societies, advanced or primitive, those beliefs are independent of each other, and often enough in outright conflict as to the nature, number and rankings of their supernatural beings.

If a supernatural realm existed, with its own properties and system of government, we'd expect the great majority of reports of it to agree on its general outline and functions. Instead we get enormous variety, great incompatibilities, irreconcilable claims.

This suggests that religion is a cultural rather than a supernatural phenomenon, doesn't it? The "truth" of Christianity owes its success worldwide thanks to being imposed, often enough with much bloodshed, rather than being enlarged by any innate and persuasive "truth", no? The same is true of Islam, and in parts of Asia, Buddhism, and I'm confident there are countless examples of winning tribes imposing their religion on the conquered.

Then the society was tribal or monarchical and the religion had to be according to the needs of the time.
The Revealed Relgion with the advent of Second Coming- the Promised Messiah 1835-1908, the religion is fullfilling the needs of the time, I understand.
No-Relgion fails to be an alternative of the Relgion, I see. Right friends, please?

Regards

 

[Nivek001]

Sorry, but i don't have the burden of proof for claims that I never made. I applaud you for your well thought out strawman, but at the end, it's still nothing but a strawman argument.

What I'm talking about is what you actually said. Majority of Christian teachings don't teach what you said below.



You put too much faith on your tactics, using a strawman argument, that it will help you. But the evidence shows it to be different.

Evidence such as?

 

[Nivek001]

Then the society was tribal or monarchical and the religion had to be according to the needs of the time.
The Revealed Relgion with the advent of Second Coming- the Promised Messiah 1835-1908, the religion is fullfilling the needs of the time, I understand.
No-Relgion fails to be an alternative of the Relgion, I see. Right friends, please?

Regards

The truth of which Christianity? When did Jesus and the Apostles went on a bloodshed craze during their proselytizing?

 

[Revoltingest]

And I am pointing out to you why that is logically irrelevant. A fact that you seem determined to ignore.

I wasn't ignoring anything that I saw.
But I'm going to start.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Why is my belief irrelevant to you?

Please don't distort my comments. It's sloppy or dishonest or both. What I said was: "your certainty is entirely irrelevant to me."

 

[Baroodi]

Atheists often cite the great abundance of gods.
In my opinion, this is not evidence against God.
I believe, it rather shows that God allows other beliefs to happen, for some time at least.
Here is a video by an atheist on this matter:

If you think that every single god deserves to be scrutinized equally... check out a thousand gods then.
This would be my suggestion.

Any religion calling gods and goddesses rather than ONE GOD are in delusion

 

[blü 2]

Then the society was tribal or monarchical and the religion had to be according to the needs of the time.
The Revealed Relgion with the advent of Second Coming- the Promised Messiah 1835-1908, the religion is fullfilling the needs of the time, I understand.
No-Relgion fails to be an alternative of the Relgion, I see. Right friends, please?

I stand by the point I made, that if a supernatural realm exists then all supernatural claims should have a great deal more in common than they ever have. If ten different people look at a cow in a field from ten different vantage points, they all should able to describe the field and the cow. That's nothing like the situation with religion.

 

[Tiberius]

What part of my inquiring how your idea of objective truth is somehow more valid than a truth that’s not been proven currently do you not understand?

Your idea of “not objective truth” doesn’t make any sense as being a valid point. Truth is truth no matter how that truth is revealed.

I never said there were truths that were not objective.

 

[Tiberius]

So, It was Just one's wishful thinking not supported by science in any way. Right friend, please?

Regards

No, wrong.

You do not understand science.

 

[McBell]

Any religion calling gods and goddesses rather than ONE GOD are in delusion

Bold empty claim.

 

[74x12]

Atheists often cite the great abundance of gods.
In my opinion, this is not evidence against God.
I believe, it rather shows that God allows other beliefs to happen, for some time at least.
Here is a video by an atheist on this matter:

If you think that every single god deserves to be scrutinized equally... check out a thousand gods then.
This would be my suggestion.

No, it's not evidence against God. To the contrary ... the Bible says "I have said ye are gods"

So there are gods many but for us who believe there is one God the Father.

 

[SeekingAllTruth]

Atheists often cite the great abundance of gods.
In my opinion, this is not evidence against God.
I believe, it rather shows that God allows other beliefs to happen, for some time at least.
Here is a video by an atheist on this matter:

If you think that every single god deserves to be scrutinized equally... check out a thousand gods then.
This would be my suggestion.

Thomas, do you believe that if a man rejects jesus on earth and dies his fate is eternally sealed--he will be sent to hell to burn in flames and torment forever?

 

[thomas t]

I believe Christianity is true.

If a supernatural realm existed, with its own properties and system of government, we'd expect the great majority of reports of it to agree on its general outline and functions.

... according to you. I disagree.
The great of abundance of the reports could as well reflect a human tendency to distort things.

This suggests that religion is a cultural rather than a supernatural phenomenon, doesn't it?

no, see above.

 

[blü 2]

The great of abundance of the reports could as well reflect a human tendency to distort things.

And yours is the only undistorted one? How can you tell?

 

[thomas t]

Thomas, do you believe that if a man rejects jesus on earth and dies his fate is eternally sealed--he will be sent to hell to burn in flames and torment forever?

thank you for your honest question.
I personally compare it to a sports event: like tennis in the Olympic Games.
If you lose your singles, you can't win the medal for singles... but you still can as a member of a team that wins a medal.

Losing your singles match is like not recognising Jesus as your savior.
But if your family wins their match... you still could enter heaven as a member of that family.
Or if your church wins, you might go there as a member of your church... and if your nation wins you might be included in the members of your nation.
But if you lose your singles...and every team you're in loses too... then I have no hope in this case.
This is just my personal stance, I could be wrong.

 

[syo]

They can't leave, isn't "No-God" their deity they love so much, please? Right friend, please?

Regards

Yup. Correct.

 

[thomas t]

Many of those howevermany gods insist that THEY are the one true God. How can you be sure you've got the right one?

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Why do you think you have the 'right' god?

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And yours is the only undistorted one? How can you tell?

Ah, that's a question for another thread, I think.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Atheists often cite the great abundance of gods.
In my opinion, this is not evidence against God.

It's certainly evidence that a god-belief doesn't have to be true to be believed.

I believe, it rather shows that God allows other beliefs to happen, for some time at least.

That's nice, but if we're already taking as given that 99.9% of god-beliefs are "allowed" to happen despite being false, we should ask why we should ever assume your particular god-belief doesn't follow the general trend for god-beliefs.

If you think that every single god deserves to be scrutinized equally... check out a thousand gods then.
This would be my suggestion.

Why would scrutinizing a thousand gods be a reasonable use of my time?

Another approach that involves scrutinizing all gods equally: ignoring all of them.

 

[Altfish]

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Ah, that's a question for another thread, I think.

That answer sounds like a cop out