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There is more then enough evidence to prove God exists.

Serenity7855

Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
So 56 pages, and you still have no evidence that refutes men create deities?

Oh dear, another falsehood. Isn't that against the rules of the forum, making you a hypocrite. You say "we" quite a lot on here, but nobody ever supports your post. Why is that?
 

Serenity7855

Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
I can't prove that God exists anymore then I can prove Zeus exists. That's why its called Faith. I can't prove beyond a responsible doubt that he exists, but I believe he does.

No, neither can I, which is why I said "could it be a God, I think it was"
 

Serenity7855

Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
A thread title is intended to draw the attention of the reader. The op contains the topic of the thread. It is not a contradictory remark either. There is more then enough evidence to prove that a God exists to the reasonable man. I need no evidence and I cannot prove it but science can.
 

Serenity7855

Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
No. The first 10 posts you said it was God. Not until post 180 did you say "could it be God"

So. What are you saying. Are you projecting. I believe it was God does not mean I can prove it was could. I have no idea what the reader thinks so I have to ask" could it be a god" in order to get their opinion. People tend to judge others by the way they are themselves. Is that what you are doing.?
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
I can't prove that God exists anymore then I can prove Zeus exists. That's why its called Faith. I can't prove beyond a responsible doubt that he exists, but I believe he does.

So why do you have Faith in God but not Zeus?


I'm a theist but I require evidence and accept the beliefs that make the most reasonable sense to me; theist or atheist. I don't understand how you could know what to have 'Faith' in.
 

McBell

Unbound
A thread title is intended to draw the attention of the reader. The op contains the topic of the thread. It is not a contradictory remark either. There is more then enough evidence to prove that a God exists to the reasonable man. I need no evidence and I cannot prove it but science can.

You do not back peddle very well.
 

McBell

Unbound
So. What are you saying. Are you projecting. I believe it was God does not mean I can prove it was could. I have no idea what the reader thinks so I have to ask" could it be a god" in order to get their opinion. People tend to judge others by the way they are themselves. Is that what you are doing.?
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George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
God of the bible is real while Zeus is fable, mythology

But you must have reasons why you believe one and not the other. To just say "Faith" like the previous poster doesn't make sense. There must be a reason why you have faith in one and not the other. "Faith" may be fine but must be based on a reason.

(and I'm a theist)
 

TheScholar

Scholar
As an atheist, I have to say, if you can say that, and add "and therefore, won't enforce my beliefs into law, or force them onto others" I'm glad to have you around.

Therefore, I won't enforce my beliefs into law, or force them onto others.

If a man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
 

JM2C

CHRISTIAN
I'm a theist but I require evidence and accept the beliefs that make the most reasonable sense to me; theist or atheist. I don't understand how you could know what to have 'Faith' in.
Logic and reason is your basis for belief and not by faith alone which transcends logic and reason. You needed evidence that can satisfy your physical senses that totally disregard the meaning of faith. You need faith to get evidence and this is not for your senses only but for your heart. And from your heart then to your senses that makes it more reasonable.

Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
 

McBell

Unbound
Logic and reason is your basis for belief and not by faith alone which transcends logic and reason. You needed evidence that can satisfy your physical senses that totally disregard the meaning of faith. You need faith to get evidence and this is not for your senses only but for your heart. And from your heart then to your senses that makes it more reasonable.

Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Faith is a device of self-delusion, a sleight of hand done with words and emotions founded on any irrational notion that can be dreamed up. Faith is the attempt to coerce truth to surrender to whim. In simple terms, it is trying to breathe life into a lie by trying to outshine reality with the beauty of wishes.
 

Serenity7855

Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
Faith is a device of self-delusion, a sleight of hand done with words and emotions founded on any irrational notion that can be dreamed up. Faith is the attempt to coerce truth to surrender to whim. In simple terms, it is trying to breathe life into a lie by trying to outshine reality with the beauty of wishes.


What absolute unadulterated drivel. JM2C is absolutely correct when he quotes Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. I had faith this morning that when I walked down to get my paper I would not be hit by a jumbo jet. It is entirely possible but I have faith that it will not. That faith almost turns into a knowledge on each successful trip to the shop as faith in Jesus Christ eventually become a knowledge. Faith is like a pepper seed. It requires nurture and care for it to eventually turn into a magnificent tree. I know that it works without a shadow of doubt.
 
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McBell

Unbound
What absolute unadulterated drivel. JM2C is absolutely correct when he quotes Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Except that what you call "absolute unadulterated drivel" is exactly what JM2C is claiming.
For those of us who do not give value to the opinions presented in the Bible, presenting from the Bible as some sort of be all end all authority does not help your "argument".
 

McBell

Unbound
Are you talking about the charismatic groups here?

I am talking about ANYONE, regardless of religious affiliation, political affiliation, etc. who claim that tossing out all reason and going solely on faith is the best way to go.
 
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