Your doctrine stands opposed to any Christian theology I have ever encountered, experienced or participated in. Are you just making up things as you go along?
Firstly, if what you have said about religions you actually believe then your knowledge of religion is limited.
You are asking me if I am making it up? Why would anyone the a level head on their shoulders want to make anything up. What are my motives. This is an anonymous debating forum, what would I gain by making stuff up. No, I am not making anything up.
You're simplistic and childish conclusion about why crime is on the increase in our country is completely devoid of evidence, offers no solution, and does nothing to help the situation and nothing to help others. It has no value. None. (Except, maybe, to stroke your delusion of superiority).
Please, the topic and not me. Was it really necessary for you to use ad hominem to insult me with? If not, then what made you insult me.
More laws are needed as religion declines, top judge says
One of Britain's most senior judges said the rapid rise in the number of laws in recent years had been necessary as other modes of social control such as religion and old fashioned morality declined
One of Britains most senior judges has blamed a decline in religion and traditional moral values for the growing number of laws needed to maintain order.
Lord Sumption, a Supreme Court Justice, said laws now reached into areas of life once left untouched by such regulation with 3000 new criminal or administrative offences added to the statute book during Tony Blairs premiership between 1997 and 2007.
But he claimed the expansion of the empire of law had been necessary to fill the gap left by declining religious and moral codes which once guided peoples behaviour.
He said: It is a response to a real problem.
At its most fundamental level, the problem is that the technical and intellectual capacities of mankind have grown faster than its moral sensibilities or its co-operative instincts.
More laws are needed as religion declines, top judge says - Telegraph
If the "self" does not care, then the justice system steps in. It's not that hard to figure out.
That is not true in my country. The scale of theft is so high that when my drill was stolen I did not see a policeman I did it all over the phone to save time and was told that there is little chance in me getting my drill back, unless they get lucky.
I don't know who stole your drill. You don't know who stole your drill. Maybe it was one of your dear "atheist" friends. I have an hilarious picture painted in my head of a police officer's face when you (hypothetically) called them up to report that an atheist stole your drill.
I do not wear my religion on my sleave. I never talk about religion socially. I only debate religion on forums like this, but this is all personal stuff that will derail the thread. This thread is not about me
I provide data to support my claim. You have no data to support your claim. All you have are false ideas and "perhaps".
Not true again, I have provided links to substantiate my claims and if I have not it will be because the post is based on my own experiences and knowledge.
So, generally speaking, Atheists do not feel the same emotions you feel, but there are exceptions to the rule Is that what you are saying? If that's what you are saying, then that is incredibly stupid, ignorant and arrogant. Not to mention sanctimonious.
No, that is not what I am saying.
Or, are you saying that there are exceptions to the rule to mean that others with different beliefs are capable of experiencing the same emotions as you, with exceptions? If so, then those "exceptions" are not called "Atheists". They are called "mentally ill", up to and including Sociopaths.
That is not what I am saying either. You are not reading for comprehension
Those incapable of guilt, empathy and compassion are called "mentally ill" or "sociopaths". They are not called "militant atheists". Do you think before you speak?
Whether I think before I speak is personal to me. I am not up for discussion here.
Where did I say that "those incapable of guilt, empathy and compassion"
I have a really hard time believing that. You are so preachy and condescending who seems to believe, not with lack of evidence but IN SPITE of evidence, that Atheists are intrinsically immoral.
No, not atheists but militant atheists. I have had enough incursions with militant atheists to know what they are all about. I did not say they were immoral, those are word you are putting in my mouth. I said that they lack accountability.
You seem to think Sociopaths are Atheists.
No, that is a falsehood.
Maybe you claim this just to look good.
What a very silly thing to say.
Maybe you just pretend to befriend Atheists to impress yourself and others about what a good Christian you are.
Maybe you such stop debating me and stick to the topic of the thread.
Maybe they are just tolerating you.
Maybe, but I doubt it.
You're attitude is deplorable and it is beyond me to imagine that a non-Christian would be in the same room with you, let alone befriend you.
And you attitude, as demonstrated here with your personal attacks, is exemplary? Right. Pot, kettle and black comes to mind.
No, with the "better than you", arrogant attitude you are showing me right now, I simply can not accept that an Atheist would befriend you.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. At the end of the day it is a matter of opinion, and your opinion doesn't matter.
Where did I say that the Commandments were for God?
... For God? God gave us his Commandments he does not need them. He is God.
Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
No
If so, it's no big deal; I have a learning disability in the manipulation of numbers.
I am sorry to hear of that.
But it sure seems that you have a reading comprehension problem if you are somehow reading that I said commandments were for God.
I cannot recall saying that, however, please prove me wrong. I know that God needs no Commandments so either you are not reading for comprehension or I have made a spelling mistake, which I frequently do.
You have proven my point and done so very well, thank you. See, I don't believe in your God and I do not gain the entirety of my moral code from the Bible. Yet, I do not lie.
You are new here, We will have to wait and see if that is true or not.
I do not lie because I find it to be an immoral act. Neither do I steal. This harms our fellow man; something I find immoral. My morality is intrinsic. If you would start lying, stealing, cheating, philandering, whatever if the Bible didn't tell you not to, then that means your morality is not intrinsic. That means, you're morality is not real.
We are all carnal in nature, including you. We have been conditioned from birth to know the difference between right and wrong. Those moral values have come down from the centuries of ancestorsthat came before us, , who were steeped in religious beliefs. However, there are exceptions to every rule. It all depends on nuture, environmental conditioning and parenting. No one is naturally moralistic. It is all taught.
You're "Christianity" is very Un-Christian.
No it is not.
You complain and whine about how Atheists treat you in these forums (and I can certainly understand why they treat you the way they do),
No I do not, and treatment like that is unexceptable in Western societies. That you understand it say a lot about who you are.
and when I mention you forgiving them their trespasses, you place that responsiblity on God. Now, we both know that according to your doctrine, only God can forgive sins. But, the Bible and the the commandments therein are very clear that it IS up to you to forgive; Seventy Times Seventy, remember? If you don't understand that, then you are affiliating yourself with a religion that you don't understand.
I cannot forgive them of their sins, that is, contravention of the Commandments, but I can forgive them of their trespasses against me, that is their offenses against me. That has to be so as God has given us free agency. If he steps in and forgives offenders Forgiveness to their sins then our free agency has been compromised. What if we did not want to forgive them right now. God will forgive you for the sins you commit but for sins that you commit against the person, he must forgive first. You must first recognise that you have sinned, Zhou must then make restitution, which entails putting your wrong deed right by approaching the person you have sinned against and asking them to forgive you. Then you repent and await confirmation that your sin has been forgiven.
"Though fool! First remove the log from your own eye, then you may see clearly to remove the mote from your brother's eye".
This refers to judgement and not the forgiving of sins.
Maybe, some of these atheists, like myself, are also pointing out your shortcomings .
Maybe they are. I can Stan being wrong and retracting my opinions, I have done it here. I see no shame in being wrong because the next time I will be right and all because some has kindly brought it to my Argentina.
