There is more then enough evidence to prove God exists.

[Ouroboros]

That is a tad condescending and arrogant, don't you think? Militant Atheists, after all, are void of moral accountability. They have no consequences to their actions, so there is no reason for them to account for them.

That's not true in my opinion. I'm not a militant atheist, but I don't agree with your statement above one bit.

Everyone is accountable and will feel consequences of his or her actions. It's true that some people at some times don't because they get away with it, but generally, we pay one way or the other for what we do. If not immediately, at least people will feel it years later.

I see myself as the one who will pay and suffer tomorrow for the actions I do today, through the results of my actions. The ripples from one's decisions tend to cause things regardless if we want it or not. To deny this fact of consequences, is not atheism in any sense, but rather stupidity.

 

[NewGuyOnTheBlock]

There is a thin line where "Righteous Justice" becomes "Indignant Vengeance".

 

[outhouse]

There is a thin line where "Righteous Justice" becomes "Indignant Vengeance".

I think they call it

TERRORISM.

 

[NewGuyOnTheBlock]

I think they call it

TERRORISM.

That's one example. Other examples I would include is that somehow, serving "justice" will help a victim and/or families of victim deal with what has been done to them. Or advocating death penalties. Or arguing over "how much time" is appropriate for a given crime. Or complaining about the medical treatment inmates receive. Crap, sometimes I think many believe we should go back to Medieval dungeons, 1 meal a week, no water, no nothing except a cell and a Bible. But, I sense I am on the verge of derailing this thread, so I will cease and desist.

 

[NewGuyOnTheBlock]

Point is,though, that this "myth" that atheists are not accountable nor hold themselves accountable is ludicrous and false.

 

[outhouse]

Point is,though, that this "myth" that atheists are not accountable nor hold themselves accountable is ludicrous and false.

Agreed.

This is nothing more then the OP fighting truth, education and knowledge and blaming a group of people he knows nothing about for it.


OP's hatred for truth is very obvious now. In his OP he has to find someone who is not educated and fell off a turnip truck just so he can get them to believe his view. he must hate the rest of humanity, blaming atheist for his woes.

 

[Serenity7855]

Point is,though, that this "myth" that atheists are not accountable nor hold themselves accountable is ludicrous and false.

I am not talking about atheists. If you read my post I have on several occasions said that I have an axe to grind with militant atheists. I have said that a good proportion of my friends and family are Atheists. It is the confrontational atheists, like outhouse, where my gripe lies.

 

[Magic Man]

I am not talking about atheists. If you read my post I have on several occasions said that I have an axe to grind with militant atheists. I have said that a good proportion of my friends and family are Atheists. It is the confrontational atheists, like outhouse, where my gripe lies.

The problem is you're confusing things. It's fine to have a gripe with rude people of a certain group, but you're arguing two different things. You're arguing about them being rude and about them being wrong. If you just want to complain about some rude atheists, especially one in particular who affected you personally, the response is "Well, sorry you had a bad experience with an atheist". If you want to make your argument about them being wrong and God being probable, then the response is what you've gotten. When you mix the two, it makes it seem like you're complaining about all atheists.

 

[Serenity7855]

That's not true in my opinion. I'm not a militant atheist, but I don't agree with your statement above one bit.

Everyone is accountable and will feel consequences of his or her actions. It's true that some people at some times don't because they get away with it, but generally, we pay one way or the other for what we do. If not immediately, at least people will feel it years later.

I see myself as the one who will pay and suffer tomorrow for the actions I do today, through the results of my actions. The ripples from one's decisions tend to cause things regardless if we want it or not. To deny this fact of consequences, is not atheism in any sense, but rather stupidity.

So, tell me, who is a militant atheist accountable to. If he is rude and obnoxious what code of practice makes him feel guilty. If he brakes the law he is accountable to the state but that does not mean that he will feels guilt for what he has done, no, it is usually anger with himself for getting caught. If an atheist tells lies on here, and they do, there is no reason for them to feel guilt, whereas, a Christian would need to recognise the sin, make restitution and then repent. We have a higher being to be accountable to. Most atheists recognise that there is a objective morality which most of us recognise and adhere to, however, the militant atheist will insult and berate you on first contact and not care less.

 

[outhouse]

So, tell me, who is a militant atheist accountable to. If he is rude and obnoxious what code of practice makes him feel guilty. .

So, tell me, who is a militant theist accountable to. If he is rude and obnoxious what code of practice makes him feel guilty?


Because your more guilty then I am. And obviously nothing stops you.


I have education and knowledge, and history and you oppose it.

 

[outhouse]

If an atheist tells lies on here, and they do, there is no reason for them to feel guilt,

.

Provide examples.

If not retract your own.

 

[outhouse]

Most atheists recognise that there is a objective morality which most of us recognise and adhere to, however, the militant atheist will insult and berate you on first contact and not care less.

.

Many people do not care if theist use bias to pervert history and science, in favor of the supernatural with no credible explanation or evidence.

The problem here is you.

You stepped in it, put the waders on, and went in neck deep

 

[Serenity7855]

So, tell me, who is a militant theist accountable to. If he is rude and obnoxious what code of practice makes him feel guilty?


Because your more guilty then I am. And obviously nothing stops you.


I have education and knowledge, and history and you oppose it,

And this is a demonstration of a militant atheist lying, and caring little about the consequences or being accountable for the immorality. I have never said that I oppose his education and knowledge. That is a blatant lie.

 

[Serenity7855]

Provide examples.

If not retract your own.

An example is your very next post.

 

[outhouse]

And this is a demonstration of a militant atheist lying, and caring little about the consequences or being accountable for the immorality. I have never said that I oppose his education and knowledge. That is a blatant lie.

In science regarding the origin of the BB, they say, we do not know.

You do not agree with that. you are against science as you place a character that could be mythical in the spot of "we dont know".

You claimed 10 different views on evolution, directly against science and knowledge with your own version.

Your statements against the scientific view on human evolution go against every credible college and university that exist.

DID YOU NOT???

 

[Serenity7855]

In science regarding the origin of the BB, they say, we do not know.

No, that is not true. It is generally held that the BB is a reality.

You do not agree with that. you are against science as you place a character that could be mythical in the spot of "we dont know".

How can a Scientist be against science. I placed nobody in the spot "we don't know". I said "could it be a God" that is a question not a statement of fact. So, yet another lie.

You claimed 10 different views on evolution, directly against science and knowledge with your own version.

I believe evolution in its entirety, both Macroevolution and microevolution. I believe in common descent and variation within species. (speciation) as well. I do not have a version, I have opinions. Yet another load of words in my mouth lies

Your statements against the scientific view on human evolution go against every credible college and university that exist.

I made no factual statement on human evolution. I put forward a very plausible opinion. My belief. I did not say my opinion is right and science is wrong. You lied again.

DID YOU NOT???

No I didn't

That makes four lies in just one short post.

 

[outhouse]

who was totally impartial and without mindless bigotry, void of the brain washing techniques of Atheists and open minded enough to learn, .

So who really being the rude one who started all this in the first place.

Atheist according to you before I even started with you, are all

Partial
mindless
bigots
brainwashed

So, tell me, who is a militant atheist accountable to. If he is rude and obnoxious what code of practice makes him feel guilty. If he brakes the law he is accountable to the state but that does not mean that he will feels guilt for what he has done, no, it is usually anger with himself for getting caught.

So obviously god is not stopping you from any sort of morality is he?

 

[outhouse]

I put forward a very plausible opinion. My belief.

.

Which goes directly against everything taught in every major credible college and university around the world.

 

[Serenity7855]

The problem is you're confusing things. It's fine to have a gripe with rude people of a certain group, but you're arguing two different things. You're arguing about them being rude and about them being wrong. If you just want to complain about some rude atheists, especially one in particular who affected you personally, the response is "Well, sorry you had a bad experience with an atheist". If you want to make your argument about them being wrong and God being probable, then the response is what you've gotten. When you mix the two, it makes it seem like you're complaining about all atheists.

I think that I have made it crystal clear that my axe to grind is with militant atheists. I do not believe anything they say on here as they all have agendas to discredit Christianity and actively make every effort to do so. If they are right in their post I say nothing. What is the point in debating with someone you agree with. That is why you will see me only objecting to their posts, or anyone's post, for that matter. If I disagree then I will say so along with the details of my disagreement. I am not arguing with them being rude. I am pointing it out as a common trait of the militant atheist. I am a big boy now I can take insults without them bothering me in the slightest. My agenda with pointing out their derisive behaviour is to build up a profile of the kind of people they are.

Can I also just add that I am not here to prove the authenticity of a God. I am here to find out just how strong my testimony of divinity is. I welcome criticism of my religion, I don't welcome insults about my beliefs. My testimony of diety has increased ten fold since I started posting on religious forums. I love to debate against atheists, Pagan's or agnostics. I like to hear their opinions and beliefs. I know that it is unlikely for anyone to be converted to Christianity on here so I genuinely do not try. I like to be challenged. That is my reason for being here

 

[outhouse]

I do not believe anything they say on here as they all have agendas to discredit Christianity and actively make every effort to do so.

You are the one discrediting Christians with your militant agenda.

It is you who wished to pervert what is known to fit your religiously biased views.


So far everyone in this thread has just tried to get you on the right rack of science and history, and you refuse.


Your interpretation of text is actually pretty good , your even partially on board with evolution. [its a start ] Where your running into trouble is your attitude which is bringing the house down on top of you.