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There is more then enough evidence to prove God exists.

Serenity7855

Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
I don't care how you wish to try to justify such a terrible action.

It is not a justification. It is what it is. A supernatural law.

The point is that your god is supposed to have actually destroyed the entire world and just about everything on it.

No, that is what you are trying to hang on him not what he actually did. If you knew anything about the concept of God you would know that it is impossible for him to do anything malicious.

Never mind what the animals could have possibly done to deserve such a thing.

You do not know what happened to the animals anymore then I do. I am sure that they did not suffer but their spirits were removed prior to their deaths. At least that is my opinion.
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
:cold:
It is not a justification. It is what it is. A supernatural law.



No, that is what you are trying to hang on him not what he actually did. If you knew anything about the concept of God you would know that it is impossible for him to do anything malicious.



You do not know what happened to the animals anymore then I do. I am sure that they did not suffer but their spirits were removed prior to their deaths. At least that is my opinion.

God destroying the entire populations of Soddom and Gomorrah, babies, innocent children and all was malicious. As was demanding that Abraham murder his own son.
 

Blackdog22

Well-Known Member
This entire thread = Atheists are hateful, but when im hateful it isn't hate. Atheists are bullies, but Christians are incapable. Atheists are confrontational, but my post stating they are mindless bigots isn't and when Christians are confrontational it isn't really because lol.

Nice conversations, Great thread. 10/10. Please show us more of your biased hate speech. Maybe explain how anything you apply to Atheists can't be applied to Christians. Good luck.
 

Blackdog22

Well-Known Member
No, God didn't do that, mankind did it. They had been warned many times aver a long period of time to get their act together. The ignored the warning until they tipped the balance and the flood happened. The contravened a universal law of cause and effect. When society becomes that wicked then nature resolves it.

"I told her to give me the money officer, or I would kill her, and she didn't listen"

The above would be considered a suicide if Serenity was in charge of our Country, and the guy wonders why he is getting negative feedback.
 

Serenity7855

Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
My point is I was a Christian. I truly believed. I prayed all the time. If what I was doing wasn't enough, then nothing is. The point is it's not true that all you have to do is invite him in sincerely.

No, that is correct. It takes far more preparation, like bringing your life in line with his teachings. For example if you truly believed but at the same time you were fornicating you would be flogging a dead horse.

Why should we be tried and tested at all? That doesn't sound like a loving god. But the point is, if there is a loving god testing us, he should give us all the information to make a truly informed decision. It's not exactly fair to give us some possibilities and not letting us know for sure what's true and what's not, and then determine our eternal fate based on what we do with that limited info.

We had to be tried and tested in the flesh to prove our worthiness to dwell in his presence, for no unclean thing can dwell in the presence of God. That was the goal. It has nothing to do with being a loving God, it is a constraint.

He has given us all the information to make an informed choice. It is the Holy Bible along with the Holy Ghost to testify that the word it contains are true. When reading the bible th words should come alive and be felt in your heart for God has written them on your heart as well.

If we knew the conditions that exist within the lower kingdoms of heaven would would commit suicide just to be there. The lower kingdoms were not what we signed up for. It is the kingdom where God resides that is our objective. To get their we must prove worthy.

In one sentence you are requesting all the information then in the last sentence you say that we can be judged on the limited info. We have the limited info.

Let's say you are looking for a new job. You interview somewhere, and they seem to like you a lot. They tell you some info about the job, and tell you you might have it, and they want your answer. Would that be enough info for you to quit your current job? Wouldn't you think it unfair for them to ask you to commit before giving you all the info?

That is faith. The belief in things unseen and unknown. It is a part of the Plan of Salvation and the need to prove ourselves. But what is being asked of you. How does belief in a living God bring anything negative into your life. On the contrary, it enhances your life. What do you do now that you cannot do if you have a belief in God. That really baffles me. It is common sense for us to choose the right, and if the right is wrong, then what the heck, you have still lived a fulfilled life. If the right is right then you have passed the test.

Remember, you can make a decision through free will if you have all the info. Being fully informed doesn't negate free will.

No, but it proves nothing about who were are.

Ah, yes, it always comes back to Pascal's Wager. Here's the problem:

What if a god exists, but it's not yours? What if the real god sends people to hell for believing in other gods, but not for just not believing in any gods? Then I'm better off than you are. From an objective standpoint, this possibility has the same chance of happening as your god being real.

There is only one God. We all worship the same God just in different guises, besides, the judgement will take all of that into consideration.

Also, you do do things differently from me. You spend time worrying about your god and beliefs. I am free from all that. After being on both sides, I'm much happier being on this side. You're really missing out.

If you are happier doing what you are doing then who am I to try and change it. I am not going to. But to say that I am missing out is disingenuous. I believe that you are missing out. I certainly do not worry about God and and my beliefs. It is my lifestyle. It is a part of my existence that I do instinctively.
 

Serenity7855

Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
"I told her to give me the money officer, or I would kill her, and she didn't listen"

The above would be considered a suicide if Serenity was in charge of our Country, and the guy wonders why he is getting negative feedback.

Thank goodness the posters I have encounter have better sense to be able to see through a righteous deed and a wicked did.
 

Serenity7855

Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
:cold:

God destroying the entire populations of Soddom and Gomorrah, babies, innocent children and all was malicious. As was demanding that Abraham murder his own son.

God didn't destroy the population of Sodom and Gomorrah, they did it themselves, after being warned for decades to mend their ways. God is incapable of malice. Abraham was a test of obedience.
 

Blackdog22

Well-Known Member
Thank goodness the posters I have encounter have better sense to be able to see through a righteous deed and a wicked did.

Yes, righteous appears to be "whatever God says" in which case, imagine the possibilities! Everything you like becomes righteous and everything you hate becomes wicked. Mass genocide? Its fine.....under these rules. Is that what you mean to say?

Kind of like how you are the spitting definition of everything you claim to hate about militant atheists, but of course when you do it, its fine, but when they do it...well gosh darnit it just aint right!!
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
God didn't destroy the population of Sodom and Gomorrah, the did it themselves after being warned for decades to mend their ways. God is incapable of malice. Abraham was a test of obedience.

Tens of thousands of innocents were slaughtered - the babies and little children were innocent. The babies and children were not alive decades earlier - that excuse makes no sense. If you think that those little ones destroyed themselves, I can not see why you would think so.

As to testing obedience by obliging a man to butcher his own son - seems malicious to me.
 

Serenity7855

Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
This entire thread = Atheists are hateful, but when im hateful it isn't hate. Atheists are bullies, but Christians are incapable. Atheists are confrontational, but my post stating they are mindless bigots isn't and when Christians are confrontational it isn't really because lol.

Nice conversations, Great thread. 10/10. Please show us more of your biased hate speech. Maybe explain how anything you apply to Atheists can't be applied to Christians. Good luck.

Well, I am sorry that you feel that way but the fact is that atheists are far more angry them what theists are. It is an axiom. Everybody knows it is that way, there are even Internet articles that discuss it. Almost all of your post is hostile and sarcastic in nature the an added measure of superiority over theists.
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
Well, I am sorry that you feel that way but the fact is that atheists are far more angry them what theists are. It is an axiom. Everybody knows it is that way, there are even Internet articles that discuss it. Almost all of your post is hostile and sarcastic in nature the an added measure of superiority over theists.

Forget about unnamed and amorphous internet atheists you may or may not have encountered elsewhere.

YOUR behaviour here has been far more hostile, sarcastic, patronising and insulting than that of the atheists you have been engaging with.

What other people may or may not have done elsewhere is no excuse for how you act here - so take responsibility and stop blaming your own bad behaviour on others.
 

Serenity7855

Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
Yes, righteous appears to be "whatever God says" in which case, imagine the possibilities! Everything you like becomes righteous and everything you hate becomes wicked. Mass genocide? Its fine.....under these rules. Is that what you mean to say?

Kind of like how you are the spitting definition of everything you claim to hate about militant atheists, but of course when you do it, its fine, but when they do it...well gosh darnit it just aint right!!

You are being facetious and frivolous.
 

MD

qualiaphile
Well, I am sorry that you feel that way but the fact is that atheists are far more angry them what theists are. It is an axiom. Everybody knows it is that way, there are even Internet articles that discuss it. Almost all of your post is hostile and sarcastic in nature the an added measure of superiority over theists.

This is true, many atheists tend to be as fanatical as other fundamentalists from other religions. No respect or open mindedness, just open hostility. I don't believe in many religious things, but I don't belittle everyone that does. Atheists tend to.
 

Serenity7855

Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
Forget about unnamed and amorphous internet atheists you may or may not have encountered elsewhere.

YOUR behaviour here has been far more hostile, sarcastic, patronising and insulting than that of the atheists you have been engaging with.

What other people may or may not have done elsewhere is no excuse for how you act here - so take responsibility and stop blaming your own bad behaviour on others.

We are all entitled to our opinions, whether they be right or wrong, yours here is obviously wrong and can be dismissed by reading the posts here, or just read Blackdog22 or outhouse.
 

Serenity7855

Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
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Bunyip

pro scapegoat
We are all entitled to our opinions, whether they be right or wrong, yours here is obviously wrong and can be dismissed by reading the posts here, or just read Blackdog22 or outhouse.

Just man up buddy. You are responsible for your own behavior - that others have acted badly elsewhere is no excuse whatsoever.

When you are rude and insulting, that is you being rude and insulting. That others behave badly is not an excuse.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
This is true, many atheists tend to be as fanatical as other fundamentalists from other religions. No respect or open mindedness, just open hostility. I don't believe in many religious things, but I don't belittle everyone that does. Atheists tend to.

Many people who avoid reason, and are ignorant to the real history of their own religion, make remarks just like that.

Reality is, anyone who believes in the supernatural does not like that the origins of their belief were born in mythology, and has no place in science.
 
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