tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
It is a devout belief by many. A core value of their faith.
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There is no contradiction in Religion and Science
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paarsurrey
Veteran Member
The physical realm is set in a balance; the believer says everything happens because God was behind to do it; yet the non-believer would say there is none behind except an intricate process that did it.
Both sides claim their victory over the other.
In a sense it proves that one true God exists; as He says none could reach me except the way He has revealed Himself to be found and reached; no compulsion however.
Orias
Left Hand Path
Science and religion conflict in many ways considering that many sciences can be religions themselves and that most arguments are based off of one specific religion which in essence is flawed to the total argument.
If you want to compare science and religion just look at who created both of them.
If you want to compare science and religion just look at who created both of them.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Both created by one true God; science is His work and religion His Word.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Jesus did not say it; it is just a blind faith.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
I meant the revealed religions.
Orias
Left Hand Path
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Revealed mean those religion whose founders received Word of converse from God; others are different.
Heathen Hammer
Nope, you're still wrong
Is this a subtle attempt at claiming that only revelations from a specific God make them a revelaed religion, or will converse and revelation from any God or Gods suffice?
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
I understand that the basis of enlightenment of the founders of all religions was Converse from the one true God; He is All-Light and enlightenment means getting light from Him;Buddha being one from them.
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
Buddha did not believe in a creator though...
Let me ask again: is mathematics invented or revealed? And please explain why.
Heathen Hammer
Nope, you're still wrong
'One true'; and Buddha; all right, any God or Gods will do then.
Vadergirl123
Active Member
Revealed, the laws of mathematics have always been in existence.
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
So...we were given mathematics...by God...
Vadergirl123
Active Member
Well I can't prove they were given to us by God..why, can you prove they weren't given to us by him?So...we were given mathematics...by God...
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
I'm sorry, but by that logic, unicorns, leprechauns, and the intangible dragon in my garage exist. Doesn't work that way.
BobbyisStrange
The Adversary
This is teetering on the switching the burden of proof fallacy. You can't ask a person who is asking a question to prove it wrong...it isn't his job, it's the job of the theist to provide proof of the deity, not the other way around. In court people don't prove they didn't do it, it is the job of the prosecutor to prove that they did do it. Same for this situation...you can say I can't prove god did it, so prove he didn't...doesn't work that way.
Thats not how the burden of proof works, the person making the claim needs to supply the evidence.
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
Only if they are attempting to convince another. No one is required to provide proof of their beliefs to themselves. Example. Richard Dawkins believes there is no God, but he only rates himself a 6.9 on his own scale and states the existence of God is improbable because he can't be certain. Would you negate his beliefs to himself simply because he has no proof?