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There is no evidence for God, so why do you believe?

ppp

ppp

Well-Known Member
shunyadragon said:
Huh?!?!?! Nothing here is relevant to my posts.

Yes, I am a scientist. So what?!?!?

Still waiting for you to respond coherently to my posts.
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I am still waiting for you to stop feigning incomprenhension and do your own lifting.
Well, I was waiting.
 
blü 2

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Brian2 said:
The psychology of the God of the gaps. It doesn't sound like it explains the Bible however.
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The folklore, culture and history of Sumerian and Semitic Mesopotamia and Semitic Canaan explain the bible. It's a remarkable record.
Brian2 said:
You say show me but don't show me the evidence that you have to accept by faith because that is not real evidence and that needs to be shown to be true.
You want to believe the materialistic worldview by faith but refuse the evidence for faith in the non materialistic worldview.
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I believe in a materialistic world, but not by faith. I only have to open my eyes, pick up my morning cup of coffee, walk to the shops, to know that a world exists external to me, and I've known that since very early in life. I'd be surprised if you were to argue with any of that.

But I don't see how the immateriality of gods, spirits, demons, angels, all over the world and all through history, in uncountable numbers, represent any other part of reality than the psychology of evolved humans.

I say yet again, if you want me to believe God is real, then simply give me a satisfactory demonstration of a real god. After all, that's how I know there are real pandas, real chimpanzees, real sea squirts, and through the microscope real microorganisms and through the telescope real galaxies, on and on.
Brian2 said:
My argument is that I have faith in God and your argument is that you don't have faith in God and that you don't want to have faith in God.
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I don't doubt you have faith in God. I simply point out that God is not a real being, since if [he] were a real being you could show [him] to me. Instead, you can't even tell me what species of real being [he] is.

Where is that definition of "real" I asked you for?
 
timothy1027

timothy1027

Technology Advocate! :-)
Here is a keyword for the Bible.

"corroborate​

verb​

cor·rob·o·rate kə-ˈrä-bə-ˌrāt

corroborated; corroborating
Synonyms of corroborate
transitive verb
: to support with evidence or authority : make more certain"
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One of the BIG problems with the Bible: There is NO CORROBORATION with any other books, like history books, etc. that validate any of the claims written.
Radical claims REQUIRE radical evidence!
Tim
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
timothy1027 said:
In over 4,423 years of religious scriptures (since 2,400 BCE), nobody has ever provided any evidence that Gods exists. Therefore, it is impossible for anyone to claim any of God's attributes (e.g., all-good, all-powerful, all-knowing, wise, perfect, jealous, loving) or what God wants, thinks, did, said, etc. etc. etc. God has chosen to remain anonymous & mysterious over the millennia. I don't make the rules, I just play the game (live a productive life).
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Religious scriptures are evidence that God exists and they reveal God's attributes. The Bible is not the only religious scripture. It is ancient and has been superseded by the Qur'an and the Baha'i Writings.

Scriptures are not proof that God exists, they are only part of the evidence. The best evidence for God's existence are the Messengers of God.
There is no proof that God exists, only evidence, since God chooses not to provide proof.
 
timothy1027

timothy1027

Technology Advocate! :-)
Trailblazer said:
Religious scriptures are evidence that God exists and they reveal God's attributes. The Bible is not the only religious scripture. It is ancient and has been superseded by the Qur'an and the Baha'i Writings.

Scriptures are not proof that God exists, they are only part of the evidence. The best evidence for God's existence are the Messengers of God.
There is no proof that God exists, only evidence, since God chooses not to provide proof.
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In over 4,000 years, there has not been ANY evidence OR proof that God exists. The silent treatment is also VERY POOR MANNERS to say the least! :)
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
timothy1027 said:
In over 4,000 years, there has not been ANY evidence OR proof that God exists. The silent treatment is also VERY POOR MANNERS to say the least! :)
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There is evidence but no proof. The Messengers of God are the evidence.
God is silent but God sends Messengers in every age as His Representatives.
 
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