These 5 inmates will be executed after Attorney General William Barr told the federal government to

[MonkeyFire]

You would most likely die if someone was violent and with a weapon trying to kill you and your family. How do you think your ancestors survived dinosaurs and other apex predators for tens of thousands of years by being like Jesus? No. They've killed. They made other creatures stop breathing forever. It is in the nature of man to fight and to do what is necessary to survive. You're a part of an apex species which is how the Creator intended so if you choose to react non-violently to a violent situation you'll go against your very nature which most likely will get you killed as well as your family whom you've intended to protect.

I can be passive to any thing in the dharmaic hell and it will suffer, or turn to naught.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

I remain implacably opposed to the death penalty. We are simply not wise enough, and we are certainly not infallible. There are many, many who have been convicted of crimes that might incur that penalty, who have later been exonerated. What if that exoneration came "too late," we'd just shrug and say, "oh, well, **** happens?!"

You've got to crack a few eggs to make an omelette

 

[The Reverend Bob]

What happened to "love thy neighbor"

Does that apply to the victims or only the psychopath you want to protect?

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Does that apply to the victims or only the psychopath you want to protect?

Capitol punishment is a ****ty deterrant. If anything, more likely to escalate to 'victims and witnesses.' By the time they're in the chair the victims are already victimized. Killing the criminal doesn't protect them by that point.

Instead of calling a vengence program 'protecting the innocent,' I'd rather make headway into accessible mental healthcare and treating prison systems more like the Norwegian system.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

Capitol punishment is a ****ty deterrant.

It is not a deterrent.

I'd rather make headway into accessible mental healthcare

You can't cure psychopaths. So what use would that be?

 

[ADigitalArtist]

It is not a deterrent.

So what good is it doing?

You can't cure psychopaths. So what use would that be?

Even if I believed it were nearly so simple as 'they're all psychopaths,' why DOES reform happen more successfully in other countries?
And even if it didn't, the process of law leading up to the chair (the one that keeps innocent people from getting executed more than the already unacceptable rate anyway) is more expensive then life imprisonment. So why?

 

[The Reverend Bob]

So what good is it doing?

It's a punishment.

Even if I believed it were nearly so simple as 'they're all psychopaths,'

Not saying they all are but many of them are.

if it didn't, the process of law leading up to the chair (the one that keeps innocent people from getting executed more than the already unacceptable rate anyway) is more expensive then life imprisonment. So why?

If life imprisonment where to entail true punishment like not extending them any privileges and feeding them the loaf for the rest of their lives, then I would consider it to be a suitable punishment. But some people are just no good and serve no useful purpose with their continued existence. Because California overturned the death penalty in the 70's they allowed Charles Manson to live and spread his myth globally until he became a folk hero to some and a supervillian to others when he was just another loser. So maybe some people just don't deserve to be kept alive.

Charles Manson’s prosaic and ugly life is over. But his loser cult lives on | Suzanne Moore

The Real Cult of Charles Manson

 

[ADigitalArtist]

It's a punishment.

Little bronze age justice/Hammurabi for me. Eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind and all that.

Not saying they all are but many of them are.

How on earth do you know that? Neverminding that wrongful imprisonment and conviction happens, how many, exactly, get even psychologically evaluated let alone a diagnosis.
And even if they get a diagnosis, how do you know it can't be treated? And what kind of good does it do to 'punish' the mentally infirm?

Again, seems to be more of a vengence kick than anything.

 

[Neutral Name]

There is appeals processes etc. The law should be followed. To insure the lowest amount of error possible. No (human) system is perfect though. So occasionally an innocent may be convicted. It's unfortunate but necessary to protect potential victims.

4 out 5 of those criminals are convicted of hurting/raping/murdering children.

When someone molest a child it has ripple effects that reach multiple generations of innocent victims sometimes. It not only ruins the life of the victim but also their own children suffer from the parents abused childhood, and sometimes even further down before the damage is done.

I can forgive a thief.

I can forgive a murderer.

But I won't shed a tear for anyone that would harm a child.

Innocent people convicted is more often than you would think. I am a member of the Innocence Project. They constantly work to free innocent people wrongfully convicted. Thank God for dna. It is proving many people innocent. Eye witness testimony can be very often faulty and circumstantial evidence does not add up to guilt. We have to get back to beyond reasonable doubt. I'm not sure that this is being followed.

 

[Shaul]

I remain implacably opposed to the death penalty. We are simply not wise enough, and we are certainly not infallible. There are many, many who have been convicted of crimes that might incur that penalty, who have later been exonerated. What if that exoneration came "too late," we'd just shrug and say, "oh, well, **** happens?!"

Without or without a death penalty the State is the instrument of innocent people dying. So what is your point?

 

[metis]

I strongly oppose it, and it's a mystery to me how those who may claim to be Pro-Life can feel that capital punishment is acceptable..

BTW, I am Pro-Life, just for the record.

 

[Shad]

MSN Article Today
Three to be executed before Christmas in December. Two after the new year.

1. Daniel Lewis Lee
2. Lezmond Mitchell
3. Wesley Ira Purkey
4. Alfred Bourgeois
5. Dustin Lee Honken

All are child killers. About time in my view.

 

[columbus]

I strongly oppose it, and it's a mystery to me how those who may claim to be Pro-Life can feel that capital punishment is acceptable..

BTW, I am Pro-Life, just for the record.

Me too.
Pro-life isn't just "anti-feticide". It's opposing any and all of the various ways human beings choose death for other human beings.
Tom

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Would you trust your own life to the police and court system If circumstantial evidence was against you, or you did not have a provable alibi.
Especially in the face of the social media hate, generated by the ignorant.

 

[columbus]

All are child killers. About time in my view.

Any idea how many children Bush killed in his invasion?
Do those innocents count? Should Bush be executed? My pro-life morality extends to people who don't live in the USA.
Tom

 

[Shad]

Any idea how many children Bush killed in his invasion?
Do those innocents count? Should Bush be executed?

Tom

Yes. I have zero issues with the political elite becoming accountable for their policy. However that would have to be done at a national level as international law is worthless as might makes right still exists.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Does that apply to the victims or only the psychopath you want to protect?

It's a commandment Christians were given, not me.
Killing the killer does nothing except kill them, it settles nothing, it resolves nothing, it won't even deter future murders but encourage killing witnesses. It's not justice, it's vengeance. The victims have already been victimized, relived it, testified in court, and killing someone else doesn't help them. But it does cause someone else to lose a daughter, father, aunt, or uncle. Losing a loved one is never fixed by making someone else lose a loved one.

 

[We Never Know]

1) murdered his family.

2) killed a woman and her granddaughter.

3) murdered a teenager , and an elderly woman.

4) beat his two and a half year old daughter to death.

5) running a methamphetamine operation, subsequently killed five people execution-style.


I don't think anybody's going to be shedding tears for these people.

I agree. If there is no doubt in anyway, I think they should be executed.
It costs an average of $45,000 to house an inmate annually. Just those five since 2003 have costs tax payers near $4 million. That money could be used for better things.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

Killing the killer does nothing except kill them

That is the point. To kill them.

It's not justice, it's vengeance.

Vengeance can be just. It differs from revenge.
"Revenge is an act of passion; vengeance of justice. Injuries are revenged; crimes are avenged."
Read more at Samuel Johnson Quotes

It's not justice, it's vengeance. The victims have already been victimized, relived it, testified in court, and killing someone else doesn't help them.

Sometimes it does. I have heard people who have had loved ones murdered say that they feel relieved when those who have killed their loved ones are put to death.

But it does cause someone else to lose a daughter, father, aunt, or uncle. Losing a loved one is never fixed by making someone else lose a loved one.

And it is supposed to do that. And that is why it should deter you from killing someone, because we will make sure your family suffers the same deprivation that you inflected on another.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

And that is why it should deter you from killing someone,

It DOESN'T do that. There are no studies to suggest it is an effective deterrent, and to the contrary, countries that abolish the death penalty often see a decrease in homicides.