They Are Coming For Your Guns!

[idav]

I can't count the number of times I have heard on this forum that the Dem's do not want your firearms. Well guess that has just been found to be a false statement. Seems that the Illinois House just passed a law (65-41) that:
"Possession of assault-style weapons by anyone under 21 would be illegal under legislation that the Illinois House endorsed.

The plan sponsored by Democratic Rep. Michelle Mussman of Schaumburg would prohibit minors from buying or possessing high-capacity weapons, attachments, .50-caliber rifles and cartridges. They would have 90 days to transfer ownership."
Illinois House passes measure to raise assault-style weapon buying age to 21
Illinois General Assembly - Full Text of HB1465
Illinois General Assembly - Full Text of HB1465

Whose taking weapons? That’s called a reasonable restriction. Their mommy can still buy them their favorite assault weapon for Christmas unless they make that illegal too.

 

[Quetzal]

I can't count the number of times I have heard on this forum that the Dem's do not want your firearms. Well guess that has just been found to be a false statement. Seems that the Illinois House just passed a law (65-41) that:
"Possession of assault-style weapons by anyone under 21 would be illegal under legislation that the Illinois House endorsed.

The plan sponsored by Democratic Rep. Michelle Mussman of Schaumburg would prohibit minors from buying or possessing high-capacity weapons, attachments, .50-caliber rifles and cartridges. They would have 90 days to transfer ownership."
Illinois House passes measure to raise assault-style weapon buying age to 21
Illinois General Assembly - Full Text of HB1465
Illinois General Assembly - Full Text of HB1465

This idea has been kicked around for awhile, right? I know raising the age to 21 has been in the press since Florida.

 

[esmith]

They're not banning guns, they've just raised the minimum age to buy certain types of guns. It's no different than when Hawaii raised the minimum age for smoking to 21 or when all the states increased the drinking age to 21. You can still do it, you just have to wait a couple more years.
This is not even close to taking people's guns.

Whose taking weapons? That’s called a reasonable restriction. Their mommy can still buy them their favorite assault weapon for Christmas unless they make that illegal too.

Did you read HB1465?
From the bill

Sec. 24-1.9. Delivery or sale of assault weapons, assault
8 weapon attachments, .50 caliber rifles, and .50 caliber
9 cartridges to persons under 21 years of age prohibited;
10 possession of assault weapons, assault weapon attachments, .50
11 caliber rifles, and .50 caliber cartridges by persons under 21
12 years of age prohibited.
a semi-automatic rifle that has the ability to
3 accept a detachable magazine
a semi-automatic pistol that has the ability to
11 accept a detachable magazine and has any of the
Except as otherwise provided in subsection (d) of this
12 Section, 90 days after the effective date of this amendatory
13 Act of the 100th General Assembly, it is unlawful for any
14 person under 21 years of age within this State to knowingly
15 possess an assault weapon, assault weapon attachment, .50
16 caliber rifle, or .50 caliber cartridge.



The way I read the above says that if you are under the age of 21 the possession of the highlighted is prohibited.
How say you now

 

[wheatpenny]

It's still not a ban. You just can't have one till you're 21. People under 21 who have one can simply transfer ownership to someone over 21 (like their dad or older brother/sister) until they're of age.

Now, of course the inevitable court challenge may well result in the "possession" part being ruled unconstitutional, but the sale part is in no way a 2nd Amendment violation.

 

[Twilight Hue]

What specific history has repeated itself?

The death of many Americans due to gun violence year after year or the tyrannical US government subjugating its citizens?

Well, there was a time in the civil rights movement where armed non-civilians shot unarmed civilians that were marching. And I believed that was fixed not by guns but by actual discussion.

Anything else you can mention?

No. Just that history repeats itself.

 

[idav]

Did you read HB1465?

The way I read the above says that if you are under the age of 21 the possession of the highlighted is prohibited.
How say you now

Well good for them, they dotted their i’s, I’ve been a fan if Illinois policies for some time now, this is no different.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It's still not a ban. You just can't have one till you're 21. People under 21 who have one can simply transfer ownership to someone over 21 (like their dad or older brother/sister) until they're of age.

Now, of course the inevitable court challenge may well result in the "possession" part being ruled unconstitutional, but the sale part is in no way a 2nd Amendment violation.

It should be adjusted where under 21 may handle and discharge firearms as long as they are accompanied by a person 21 or older.

 

[Quetzal]

It should be adjusted where under 21 may handle and discharge firearms as long as they are accompanied by a person 21 or older.

I would be okay with this as a compromise. The key to me is purchasing and ownership.

 

[sayak83]

I can't count the number of times I have heard on this forum that the Dem's do not want your firearms. Well guess that has just been found to be a false statement. Seems that the Illinois House just passed a law (65-41) that:
"Possession of assault-style weapons by anyone under 21 would be illegal under legislation that the Illinois House endorsed.

The plan sponsored by Democratic Rep. Michelle Mussman of Schaumburg would prohibit minors from buying or possessing high-capacity weapons, attachments, .50-caliber rifles and cartridges. They would have 90 days to transfer ownership."
Illinois House passes measure to raise assault-style weapon buying age to 21
Illinois General Assembly - Full Text of HB1465
Illinois General Assembly - Full Text of HB1465

Excellent law. Long overdue.

 

[tytlyf]

I bet the NRA is scaring the crap out of their supporters. Using this bill as 'evidence' they're comin 4ur gunz! What happens after the NRA scares the herd? $weet $ales

Run out now and stockpile some more!

 

[MonkeyFire]

Gun violence is a strange way to promote peace. Safety is a constituent to peace. Its a miracle really.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Well there's always paintball and airsoft in the interim.

 

[sun rise]

Nice scare headline trying to stir up people's emotions with false and misleading charges. It's just part of the NRA lie machine.

But how about applying the machine gun laws to this class of weapons?

 

[lewisnotmiller]

They want to do what hitler did, take all the guns.

It's pretty base to use a Hitler argument here. However, some attempt to be accurate would be appreciated, if you do decide to tread this hyperbolic path.

Florida lawmaker mangles Nazi gun control history

Where is @Nietzsche when we need him??

 

[Father Heathen]

They want to do what hitler did, take all the guns.

LOL, Godwin's Law.

"Poor little Timmy can't have his assault rifle until he's 21... I just hope they don't place him in a death camp before then..."

 

[esmith]

Nice scare headline trying to stir up people's emotions with false and misleading charges. It's just part of the NRA lie machine.

But how about applying the machine gun laws to this class of weapons?

Suggest you read the following:
NRA-ILA | Fully-Automatic Firearms

 

[idav]

Suggest you read the following:
NRA-ILA | Fully-Automatic Firearms

I would still say that it’s a reasonable restriction and didn’t amount to “taking guns”. Even the military doesn’t just issue personal weapons to people, it is highly safe guarded. These days it is kept in an armory and you can’t buy them at discharge anymore. I know I know, stupid rules lol.

 

[David T]

I can't count the number of times I have heard on this forum that the Dem's do not want your firearms. Well guess that has just been found to be a false statement. Seems that the Illinois House just passed a law (65-41) that:
"Possession of assault-style weapons by anyone under 21 would be illegal under legislation that the Illinois House endorsed.

The plan sponsored by Democratic Rep. Michelle Mussman of Schaumburg would prohibit minors from buying or possessing high-capacity weapons, attachments, .50-caliber rifles and cartridges. They would have 90 days to transfer ownership."
Illinois House passes measure to raise assault-style weapon buying age to 21
Illinois General Assembly - Full Text of HB1465
Illinois General Assembly - Full Text of HB1465

Man I am mad. I just started selling my new NRA president target and now no one will have guns to shoot at it.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

"Possession of assault-style weapons by anyone under 21 would be illegal under legislation that the Illinois House endorsed.

ZOMG!!! Saying you have to be a wee more mentally "ripe" is cumin fur yur gunz!

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The way I read the above says that if you are under the age of 21 the possession of the highlighted is prohibited.

The way I'm reading it, unless your at an age when your more likely to be fully and completely developed--with the brain taking the longest--you don't get such high powered weaponry.