They Lied Repeatedly and Intentionally

[Debater Slayer]

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[Twilight Hue]

What about it? Do you have examples of Democrats hiring investigators to look into it, and then burying the results? Do you have examples of news outlets privately ridiculing, mocking, and saying they don't believe a specific narrative about it, but then going on air and repeating that narrative anyways?

That's exactly how Democrats bury info.

They use the media to do it.

How Democrats Use 'Disinformation' To Bury Negative Press

Aspiring MSNBC host Jen Psaki’s penultimate White House press conference was an object lesson in how Democrats and their media allies work to undermine negative press.

freebeacon.com

 

[Jose Fly]

That's exactly how Democrats bury info.

They use the media to do it.

How Democrats Use 'Disinformation' To Bury Negative Press

Aspiring MSNBC host Jen Psaki’s penultimate White House press conference was an object lesson in how Democrats and their media allies work to undermine negative press.

freebeacon.com

What specifically in that article do you see as equivalent to the items in the OP? Regarding COVID origins, did Dem's hire someone to investigate it only to bury the results while knowingly repeating a false narrative? With HB's laptop, were the news org's privately talking among themselves about it being real, but going on air and saying it wasn't?

 

[Twilight Hue]

What specifically in that article do you see as equivalent to the items in the OP? Regarding COVID origins, did Dem's hire someone to investigate it only to bury the results while knowingly repeating a false narrative? With HB's laptop, were the news org's privately talking among themselves about it being real, but going on air and saying it wasn't?

The means might be different, but the end result is essentially the same. I see things at the bottom line.

A cover up is a cover up at the end and not how you specifically got there.

 

[Jose Fly]

The means might be different, but the end result is essentially the same.

A cover up is a cover up at the end and not how you specifically got there.

Nope, it doesn't work that way. The OP shows how Republicans and Faux News were very aware that the narrative they were telling about the 2020 election was false, yet they continued to spread it anyways. You've done nothing to show where Democrats or non-conservative news outlets did the same.

 

[Ponder This]

Just in the last few weeks we've learned that...

The Trump campaign hired a research firm to investigate their "election fraud" claims, but when the firm found that the claims weren't true, they buried the report and continued to repeat the lies.

Trump campaign paid researchers to prove 2020 fraud but kept findings secret

Fox News hosts knew the "election fraud" claims from Trump's team weren't true and off-air disparaged the people who promoted them, yet the network continued to allow Trump's people to push the lies to their viewers (and at times FN hosts pushed the lies themselves).

Lawsuit filing shows Fox hosts didn’t believe election fraud lies they pushed on TV

The former Republican Attorney General from Arizona had a team of investigators look into the "election fraud" claims in AZ, but when they issued a report showing the claims weren't true, the AG buried the report.

Former Arizona AG sat on records refuting 2020 election fraud

And now we have Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis admitting to 10 specific lies regarding the 2020 election, including...



The pattern here is clear...conservatives/Republicans knew the 2020 election was accurate and claims saying otherwise were false, yet they suppressed that reality and instead kept lying to their supporters, insisting that the election was fraudulent and had been stolen by Democrats. That makes me wonder a few things. First, does any of that even matter to the average Republican voter and/or Fox News viewer? Do they care at all? Or are most of them actually aware of these things? Has this news penetrated their information bubble?

I don't know if you read your articles past their headlines...
You have a story about a report the Washington Post declares that it hasn't seen, an allegation by Dominion against Fox that is struggling to find legs, an investigation that both confirms and denies different forms of misconduct in Arizona, and now a censure which Jenna Ellis has tweeted: “This was politically motivated from the start from Democrats and Never Trumpers. They ultimately failed to destroy me and failed in their attempt to deprive me of my bar license. I’m glad to have this behind me and remain in good standing in the State of Colorado.” And if you looked, you could note that the allegations were brought by Project 65 which was formed with the express purpose of going after Trump lawyers.

I suggest caution in thinking that you've derived a meaningful pattern about the right-wing bubble by ingesting news confined to the left-wing bubble. What you've really done here, by citing left-wing news media, is express a pattern present in the left-wing bubble. If you stop to think about that for a moment, then it should be obvious why that thinking isn't part of the right-wing bubble - you have to consume in the left-wing bubble in order to have that opinion incepted into you. Those who are outside both bubbles can see that people trapped in their respective bubbles are constantly told that news media in other bubbles lie to them.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Rember when Hillary whined about how the Russians colluded with Trump? I guess that since Biden is such an unmitigated disaster of a president they have nothing more to talk about!

Dominion and their lawsuit against Trump has been a constant talked about since Trump lied about them regarding the election.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

We try to have a sense of humor about it all.

Ricky Gervais won't tell jokes about sexual assault and rape. And if he won't tell jokes about something you should really stop and consider things you call a joke.

 

[Colt]

Ricky Gervais won't tell jokes about sexual assault and rape. And if he won't tell jokes about something you should really stop and consider things you call a joke.

LoL! The joke is the hypocrisy of the Left that uses sexual assault when its convenient but turns a blind eye to its own heros for years!

 

[Colt]

This is the real reason that the Left doesn't like Tucker and wants to silence him.

 

[fantome profane]

This is the real reason that the Left doesn't like Tucker and wants to silence him.

When you see Tucker say something on the air, do you wonder if he is saying the exact opposite off the air? I do.

 

[Father Heathen]

No more concern then when Democrats do the same type of thing.

looks like I was right; most conservatives only care about political victory no matter the cost. You're willing to toss law, ethics, morality, rights, freedom, justice, honesty, capitalism, democracy, etc. into the trash just to score a "win".
Do you have any actual values or principles, or just a pathetic pile of straw men, whataboutisms, and false equivalencies?

 

[Father Heathen]

This is the real reason that the Left doesn't like Tucker and wants to silence him.

Cucker Tarlson supports unprovoked invasions, war crimes against civilians, and "rule 34" of the green M&M.

 

[JIMMY12345]

We try to have a sense of humor about it all.

Disgusting.

 

[Twilight Hue]

looks like I was right; most conservatives only care about political victory no matter the cost. You're willing to toss law, ethics, morality, rights, freedom, justice, honesty, capitalism, democracy, etc. I'm the trash just to score a "win".
Do you have any actual values or principles, or just a pathetic pile of straw men, whataboutisms, and false equivalencies?

I can't help it if your delusional about the realities.

 

[Father Heathen]

I can't help it if your delusional about the realities.

The reality is that those who fed you falsehoods and propaganda admitted to it yet here you are still loyal and submissive to them.

 

[Jose Fly]

I don't know if you read your articles past their headlines...

Of course I did. No need for the snark.

You have a story about a report the Washington Post declares that it hasn't seen

Sure, it could very well be that the WP completely fabricated the existence of four sources and the entire story. If you want to assume that, I'm not sure what else to say.

an allegation by Dominion against Fox that is struggling to find legs

Um....no. The internal Faux News communications are in the court records. Did you not pick up on that?

an investigation that both confirms and denies different forms of misconduct in Arizona

LOL, that's a very....um..."interesting" spin. The overall point remains that "Arizona’s former attorney general suppressed findings by his investigators who concluded there was no basis for allegations that the 2020 election was marred by widespread fraud".

and now a censure which Jenna Ellis has tweeted: “This was politically motivated from the start from Democrats and Never Trumpers. They ultimately failed to destroy me and failed in their attempt to deprive me of my bar license. I’m glad to have this behind me and remain in good standing in the State of Colorado.”

Are you aware that she admitted to the allegations and agreed to the censure?

And if you looked, you could note that the allegations were brought by Project 65 which was formed with the express purpose of going after Trump lawyers.

So? Does that make her self-admitted misconduct and misrepresentations go away or something?

I suggest caution in thinking that you've derived a meaningful pattern about the right-wing bubble by ingesting news confined to the left-wing bubble.

LOL...what? Court records and the AP are a "left wing bubble"? In whose world?

What you've really done here, by citing left-wing news media, is express a pattern present in the left-wing bubble.

Only if you define "left wing" to be "anything that's not far right".

If you stop to think about that for a moment, then it should be obvious why that thinking isn't part of the right-wing bubble - you have to consume in the left-wing bubble in order to have that opinion incepted into you. Those who are outside both bubbles can see that people trapped in their respective bubbles are constantly told that news media in other bubbles lie to them.

Well, if you think court records and the AP are "left wing", I'll just leave you to that.

 

[SkepticThinker]

We try to have a sense of humor about it all.

I don't have a sense of humour when it comes to liars and gropers. I take such things much more seriously than that.

Sheesh, cOLTER seems rather desperate to divert the thread away from it's topic.

Again.

 

[SkepticThinker]

LoL! The guy starts a thread about Fox, honesty and a charge of election theft and is surprised by blowback! Maybe there should be a Left only area where you guys can enjoy more of an echo chamber?

Sounds like you're the one who needs that since you can't ever seem to stick to the actual topic and instead chose to act like a child.
Ain't nothing getting inside your echo chamber. Facts be damned!

 

[Ponder This]

Sure, it could very well be that the WP completely fabricated the existence of four sources and the entire story. If you want to assume that, I'm not sure what else to say.

They say in the article that they haven't reviewed the report.

Um....no. The internal Faux News communications are in the court records. Did you not pick up on that?

Comeback when the lawsuit finds legs. The debunk is as easy as googling Tucker Carlson, then reading and watching what he actually reported (leaving the "safety" of the left-wing information bubble).

LOL, that's a very....um..."interesting" spin. The overall point remains that "Arizona’s former attorney general suppressed findings by his investigators who concluded there was no basis for allegations that the 2020 election was marred by widespread fraud".

That's the allegation, but the report itself is not that black and white.

Are you aware that she admitted to the allegations and agreed to the censure?

Quite.

So? Does that make her self-admitted misconduct and misrepresentations go away or something?

It demonstrates that the actions leading to her censure were part of a politically motivated attack.

LOL...what? Court records and the AP are a "left wing bubble"? In whose world?

Don't conflate court records with the question of what is left-wing reporting. I'm sorry that you aren't aware of the right and left wing bubbles.

Only if you define "left wing" to be "anything that's not far right".

The AP is known to lean left politically - all the news sources you looked at are part of the left-wing information bubble. If you wanted to look at the right-wing information bubble, then you should've looked at news sources that are part of the right-wing information bubble.

Well, if you think court records and the AP are "left wing", I'll just leave you to that.

The AP leans left. For example: AllSides has determined by Independent Review, Editorial Review, and Community Feedback that, with medium confidence, the AP leans left. The opinion you espoused in the OP is a product of the left-wing information bubble. I leave you to it.