This is my problem with Most Christians

[Rainbow Mage]

For Kemetics, we love ancient Egypt and the Egyptian gods are still there, they still want people to worship them. Seriously.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Not necessarily the "Norse" Gods, but yes, people have heard of the Vikings. Although they do not acknowledge their religion as a "real" religion. And most of the modern interpretation of Vikings is that they were ruthless killers and raiders, and their favourite saying was "Let's go rape and pillage." While there were Vikings raids, the average Viking wasn't ruthless at all. Chances are he was a farmer. Berserkers, however, are a whole different thing

I think it's just that the Danelaw left a bad taste in the mouth of the Anglo-Saxons.

Anyway, my point is that people treat the Germanic religions as they treat Roman and Greek Paganism. A "mythology", a "fake" religion. What get's me is that they call it mythology while they don't call other religions mythology.

Isn't calling Roman and Greek religion "fake" a lot like what you complain Christians do to you?

I really don't see how European Pagan beliefs are any better or worse than Roman and Greek religion... though I don't think that Christianity is any better or worse than them either.

(BTW: technically, it's incorrect to call Roman religion with Jupiter and friends "Pagan". The term "Pagan" was originally created to describe the traditional religions in the Italian countryside, to differentiate them from the Roman beliefs of the time.)

It was revived because certain people wanted to regain their ancient culture and restore the connection to their Pagan ancestors.

And that connection was lost because of Christianity, right?

It's like I said before: the modern incarnations of Paganism are responses to Christianity. In that sense, they're dependent on Christianity.

 

[Klaufi_Wodensson]

Isn't calling Roman and Greek religion "fake" a lot like what you complain Christians do to you?

That's exactly what I was saying. I wasn't calling Roman and Greek religion fake. I was giving an example that the Germanic religions are held in the same category by most of the world as the Greek and Roman religions

And that connection was lost because of Christianity, right?

It's like I said before: the modern incarnations of Paganism are responses to Christianity. In that sense, they're dependent on Christianity.

Alright, I didn't understand what you meant before. I thought you were saying Paganism was something like how some forms of Satanism were "reactions" to Christianity. I understand what you meant now. Yes, I do think that without the effects of Christianity, there would have been no revival, but I don't think that it is any longer dependent.

 

[Mister_T]

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[Bismillah]

'Except I'm referring to "Hey I'm miffed someone hasn't heard of my religion!"

Well that isn't something unique really. Same could be said for Jainism for example, most people don't have that type of exposure. Even with mainstream religions like Christianity I don't know what the difference is between a Methodist and a Anglican and a Protestant. Most people know little to nothing about Islam in America, but that really doesn't bother me.

Also who hasn't heard of Pagans? At least in a superficial way?

 

[ButTheCatCameBack]

Well that isn't something unique really. Same could be said for Jainism for example, most people don't have that type of exposure. Even with mainstream religions like Christianity I don't know what the difference is between a Methodist and a Anglican and a Protestant. Most people know little to nothing about Islam in America, but that really doesn't bother me.

Also who hasn't heard of Pagans? At least in a superficial way?

Having heard of paganism is one thing. Having heard of a specific form of it. Not the same thing.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Lots of people invent lies and misinformation about Pagans though like that we're Satan worshippers, or that we sacrifice children, etc.

 

[ButTheCatCameBack]

Lots of people invent lies and misinformation about Pagans though like that we're Satan worshippers, or that we sacrifice children, etc.

Shhhhh...you're going to reveal the atheist/pagan baby eating cookouts we're scheduling!

 

[Onkara]

Lots of people invent lies and misinformation about Pagans though like that we're Satan worshippers, or that we sacrifice children, etc.

I have read that the Arab pagans burried their babies alive - notes by Abdullah Yusuf Ali in The Meaning of the Holy Quran. I mention this because I think it is the term "Pagan" used as a umbrella term which leads to uneducated misunderstanding... more is the pity.

 

[Midnight Pete]

Thanks 9-10ths
This is a lingering concern I have had with paganism. It is a shame because logically Christian is historically less European (than paganism), but it is intact.

Do you mean to say that Christianity is predated by paganism in Europe and yet paganism was the one to fall? Christianity is intact because paganism was unable to resist it militarily or ideologically.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

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[jmvizanko]

Can I ask why some of the more previous posts, regarding the bible as it pertains to science, were removed?

 

[Klaufi_Wodensson]

Do you mean to say that Christianity is predated by paganism in Europe and yet paganism was the one to fall? Christianity is intact because paganism was unable to resist it militarily or ideologically.

Paganism was unable to resist militarily, however it could resist ideologically. It's just that the Christian military forces were overwhelming.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Can I ask why some of the more previous posts, regarding the bible as it pertains to science, were removed?

As I mentioned in the staff advisory, several posts in the thread were deleted for rule violations. When this happens, we normally also remove any replies to the violating posts.