Thought Experiment #1

[RedDragon94]

Ok.

Well, that would suggest that also my death would cause even more suffering. Whatever I do causes suffering, so even my death would. Living or dying wouldn't be anything that would change the world. So I guess I'd take my chances and hide (which also would cause tremendous suffering, but I don't care, since it doesn't help whatever I do).

Hypothetically if you die you would guarantee that the suffering would end eventually.

 

[RedDragon94]

1. Is suffering caused by my conscious actions, unconscious actions, or by my very nature?

By your very nature.

2. Define all suffering. In my view this would include suffering from natural causes. Suffering in the form of pain caused by injury in a hurricane, animal attacks, tripping on something, etc. Suffering as in mental anguish like death of family, social abuses like bullying, etc.

You can exclude suffering from natural disasters.

3. If I cause all suffering does my lack of existence render evil impossible?

Not impossible, just more rare.

3.a If yes, does freedom of choice and free will still exist?

Not in reality.

I didn't answer some of your questions because based on my answers some of them need not apply.

Hope this helps.

 

[Milton Platt]

They'll have to kill me before I die

Well, they couldn't very well kill you after you die.......

 

[Koldo]

Good does not come out of evil. If ever.

If my actions, regardless of whether they are evil, influence people to commit evil, how can they not influence people to do what is good ? What would prevent that from happening ?

 

[RedDragon94]

If my actions, regardless of whether they are evil, influence people to commit evil, how can they not influence people to do what is good ? What would prevent that from happening ?

Good question. Because in this scenario it is your nature to influence people negatively whether or not you mean to.

 

[Ouroboros]

Hypothetically if you die you would guarantee that the suffering would end eventually.

What if I faked my death and hid really well?

 

[psychoslice]

Good imagination that's for sure.

 

[RedDragon94]

What if I faked my death and hid really well?

Suffering would continue.

 

[Ouroboros]

Suffering would continue.

How? If I'm hidden and everyone thinks I'm dead, I wouldn't affect them unless it was some supernatural explanation behind it.

 

[RedDragon94]

How? If I'm hidden and everyone thinks I'm dead, I wouldn't affect them unless it was some supernatural explanation behind it.

I guess if you were to cut off all contact from humanity (which is impossible) and live in the house and starve to death eventually I guess you could pull it off.

 

[Ouroboros]

I guess if you were to cut off all contact from humanity (which is impossible) and live in the house and starve to death eventually I guess you could pull it off.

I think I would manage.

 

[Shad]

By your very nature.

You can exclude suffering from natural disasters.

What about other natural causes like animal attacks, diseases or simply falling from a height?

Not impossible, just more rare.

Then I am not the cause of all suffering merely some or a majority of it. A problem with this is that I must have full knowledge of which acts of suffering are caused my nature and which are still caused by others. If humans are still capable of causing suffering after I die then my death does nothing to resolve the type of suffering most people care about. The suffering humans inflict upon other humans.

Not in reality.

So my death would result in humans becoming creatures with no free will and freedom of choice. Automatons in the end. People can not choose to become doctors, join the military, run for political officer, follow a religion, etc.

I didn't answer some of your questions because based on my answers some of them need not apply.

Sure some were conditional. However I do need an answer regarding if my "influence" temporarily violates a person's free will.

For example a married couple is in conflict (dialogue) regarding say finances. Can my influence violate the free will of one or both they will suddenly grab a knives to try to kill eachother

Hope this helps.

In part. However the implications still influence me to lean toward living until the end of my natural life as it will maintain the human condition for a few years more (not knowing when I will die). The alternative just makes human-like automatons now rather than later.

 

[RedDragon94]

However the implications still influence me to lean toward living until the end of my natural life as it will maintain the human condition for a few years more (not knowing when I will die).

I voted to keep on living. It's okay.