Thought Experiment: Would you stay at home if someone told you to?

[exchemist]

I picked #5.
I'd go along if I thought there's good reason....but not merely obey.

Now for something to watch...

Not great if you are epileptic, I imagine.

Reminds me of a migraine aura.

 

[Revoltingest]

Not great if you are epileptic, I imagine.

Reminds me of a migraine aura.

Sorry 'bout that.
Just looked pretty to me.

 

[exchemist]

Sorry 'bout that.
Just looked pretty to me.

To me it looks 'king terrible.

 

[Yazata]

When would you accept a command to stay in your own home, and to not go outside (except in cases of serious emergency)?

My answer would be that I'd heed any advice to stay inside, if I thought that the reason was a good reason to stay inside. It wouldn't really be a question of what kind of authority figure I perceived the person to be.

Of course if they were telling the entire population to stay inside for months on end, seemingly with little heed for the economic and social damage that placing entire nations on house arrest cause, my threshold would be higher. It would need to be a damn good reason to win my cooperation in that case.

 

[Altfish]

In these days of 'Fake News', lies and propaganda there is no way I would trust many of the world's leaders, especially the likes of Johnson and Trump. The likes of Ardern, well yes, I would trust.

 

[Revoltingest]

To me it looks 'king terrible.

Art can divide people.

 

[Revoltingest]

In these days of 'Fake News', lies and propaganda there is no way I would trust many of the world's leaders, especially the likes of Johnson and Trump. The likes of Ardern, well yes, I would trust.

Our government admitted lying about the efficacy of weaing masks.
The reason was justifiable, ie, to stop a run on them, & keep them
available for medical personnel. It shows that one should think
for oneself.

 

[Quintessence]

I mean, I would 100% ignore it regardless of the source it came from. I can't fathom any plausible scenario where needing to not set even one foot outside of my home would be necessary or at all reasonable. Excuse me, but I'm a Druid (and asking someone from a nature-centered religion to stay inside is pretty clearly a violation of religious freedoms) and I also have a garden. I'm going to eat my home grown tomatoes - which grow on plants outside - whether you want me to or not, tyrants!

 

[Altfish]

Our government admitted lying about the efficacy of weaing masks.
The reason was justifiable, ie, to stop a run on them, & keep them
available for medical personnel. It shows that one should think
for oneself.

Indeed, that's why I don't believe a word my Government says.

 

[Rational Agnostic]

When would you accept a command to stay in your own home, and to not go outside (except in cases of serious emergency)?

Which of these figures would you trust?


1. A renowned doctor or medical expert tells you that it's not healthy to stay outside. They say that you need to stay inside your home in order to avoid becoming ill, or to spread illness to others.

2. Your country's political leader tells you that in order to serve your country, you need to stay inside. They remind you that all good patriots have accepted that necessity and agreed on it.

3. Your religious community leader tells you that it is God's will for you to stay at home and not go outside. They are calling on your faith, and tell you to trust in God and obey this command.

4. The police tells you that for law and order to be preserved, you need to stay in your home at all times. They say that it is illegal to go outside, and it would have serious consequences if you choose to disobey them.

How would you react?

I voted for "5" because of how you worded it. As everyone knows I've been critical of the lockdowns but I've followed them anyway. However, what you are proposing is making it illlegal to go outside. The stay at home orders had exemptions for outdoor exercise and essential errands. But if a government told me it was literally illegal to leave the confines of my home (big difference), I wouldn't follow it. I can't think of any scenario where simply going outside would endanger others.

 

[Wandering Monk]

I voted for doctors as I trust their judgment and expertise on such matters

I voted police because I think that as a general rule, one should obey the police - unless there's a really good reason not to!

And I voted for national leaders as I would hope that they'd listen to doctors and the police, and have the common interest at heart. And I know, that's quite naive!

I didn't vote for religious leaders as they are no more knowledgeable on such matters than I am!

This

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Doctor and police. My doctor has a reasonable chance of knowing what might be good for me, and I do try to obey the law, where possible. My country's leaders, however, are political, not the law, and very often don't have my interests at heart.

 

[Heyo]

When would you accept a command to stay in your own home, and to not go outside (except in cases of serious emergency)?

Which of these figures would you trust?


1. A renowned doctor or medical expert tells you that it's not healthy to stay outside. They say that you need to stay inside your home in order to avoid becoming ill, or to spread illness to others.

2. Your country's political leader tells you that in order to serve your country, you need to stay inside. They remind you that all good patriots have accepted that necessity and agreed on it.

3. Your religious community leader tells you that it is God's will for you to stay at home and not go outside. They are calling on your faith, and tell you to trust in God and obey this command.

4. The police tells you that for law and order to be preserved, you need to stay in your home at all times. They say that it is illegal to go outside, and it would have serious consequences if you choose to disobey them.

How would you react?

Can't answer because of the way it is worded. I don't trust the police or my government but I'd obey an order. (At least until I find out that the order isn't backed by the law.) I don't care about religious leaders. I trust my doctor because I have good experiences. And I trust doctors more than politicians by far.

 

[Tambourine]

Can't answer because of the way it is worded. I don't trust the police or my government but I'd obey an order. (At least until I find out that the order isn't backed by the law.) I don't care about religious leaders. I trust my doctor because I have good experiences. And I trust doctors more than politicians by far.

Yea, I realize this was a problem with the post. I tried to have it both ways with the poll entries, but I probably should have split "obey" and "trust" into separate responses.

 

[Tambourine]

I voted for "5" because of how you worded it. As everyone knows I've been critical of the lockdowns but I've followed them anyway. However, what you are proposing is making it illlegal to go outside. The stay at home orders had exemptions for outdoor exercise and essential errands. But if a government told me it was literally illegal to leave the confines of my home (big difference), I wouldn't follow it. I can't think of any scenario where simply going outside would endanger others.

What if they told you it was illegal to go outside after, say, 5 PM?

 

[Tambourine]

I mean, I would 100% ignore it regardless of the source it came from. I can't fathom any plausible scenario where needing to not set even one foot outside of my home would be necessary or at all reasonable. Excuse me, but I'm a Druid (and asking someone from a nature-centered religion to stay inside is pretty clearly a violation of religious freedoms) and I also have a garden. I'm going to eat my home grown tomatoes - which grow on plants outside - whether you want me to or not, tyrants!

I was intending it to mean going out in public/among other people - if you want, you can assume that doctors/police/government/clergy would think of your garden as an extension of your home.

 

[columbus]

I voted #5.

I wouldn't entirely trust any of those groups(especially the religious"leaders").

I understand what doctors are saying and basic science well enough to understand disease transmission vectors. But there's a big difference between going out to a concert or church and taking the dogs for a run in the woods.

There's no reason for concerts or church worth the risks of infecting someone with C19. Running the dogs, I hardly get within 50 yards of another human being.
Tom

 

[Unveiled Artist]

1. A renowned doctor or medical expert tells you that it's not healthy to stay outside. They say that you need to stay inside your home in order to avoid becoming ill, or to spread illness to others.

Most definitely. The doctor would need to know my medical history so specific needs will be congruent with my health as well as my knowing my own body.

2. Your country's political leader tells you that in order to serve your country, you need to stay inside. They remind you that all good patriots have accepted that necessity and agreed on it.

Theoretically, no. What this brings to mind is "the person is smart. people are wild, dangerous, and you know it..." Bomb threats and things like that, well, I can't argue there.

3. Your religious community leader tells you that it is God's will for you to stay at home and not go outside. They are calling on your faith, and tell you to trust in God and obey this command.

If I believed in a god that has laws then, most likely. The god I would believe in keeps me from drowning rather than save me from it. So, if staying home keeps me from "drowning" yes.

4. The police tells you that for law and order to be preserved, you need to stay in your home at all times. They say that it is illegal to go outside, and it would have serious consequences if you choose to disobey them.

I don't like my freedom limited-physically, mentally, and/or spiritually. So most likely I'd say yes unless I have means and resources to challenge their decision if I knew it was in my best legal interest to do so in court.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Doctor and police. My doctor has a reasonable chance of knowing what might be good for me, and I do try to obey the law, where possible. My country's leaders, however, are political, not the law, and very often don't have my interests at heart.

Hm. My words in a nutshell.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

What if they told you it was illegal to go outside after, say, 5 PM?

Our governor told us masks aren't enforceable by law. Maybe curfews will get a slap on the risk and sit in the corner.