Threads about Atheism and what it is.

[stvdv]

Obama ??....OK that `law` doesn't apply to atheists does it !
It primarily protects theists doesn't it ?
I really don't know, clue me in.
mon ami

“It takes an expansive view of religious liberty, saying freedom of religion is not just about the right to practice religion. It is also about the right to have your own views about religion including being agnostic and atheistic.”

That sounds very good to me.

 

[ChristineM]

It is a bad sign that in general atheists are easily annoyed.

I see more religionist taking the hump than atheists

 

[stvdv]

If Obama created it, Trump will find a way to kill it.

That thought did cross my mind. But we might be a little faster than Trump.

 

[ChristineM]

The definition of atheist changed, from not having a god, greek, to not believing in a god or gods.
C.
The fault lies directly with atheists who changed the meaning into a nonsensical inference, that assumes that god belief, isn't inherent, thereby making your own definition problematic, because it makes the atheist position, one of belief.

Were you born believing in god?

 

[ChristineM]

Positive atheism does claim god does not exist.

No, it knows gods don't exist.

And when anyone can prove otherwise atheism will effectively end

 

[Shushersbedamned]

Were you born believing in god?

I was born to a mother who believed in god

 

[Shushersbedamned]

No, it knows gods don't exist.

And when anyone can prove otherwise atheism will effectively end

This sentence?

No. It claims
....

 

[ChristineM]

One thing is getting clear to me
Atheism begins to look like religions.
So many different denominations already.
So many different definitions
[Understandable; we are all humans after all]

I just pile all systems up under: "Belief System"
Atheists believe at least in themselves [and they change everyday, so "belief" is accurate here.]
And they believe in science. Science change everyday and even some of their facts sometimes
And from advaita I remember ""You only have to believe in Your Self to realise Your Self"

And I am free to do so because of "Freedom of Religion".
I think it is best Atheism also call themselves a Religion
Thereby they get the same right "Freedom of Religion"
Just a thought I had now.

Note: Okay I really should update my Memory I just googled and saw that sometime back this was done
Obama just signed a law protecting atheists from religious persecution

Only one definition, plus variations expounded by religious need to make us like them.

1.2 billion (including agonistic and unaffiliated) individual's

 

[ChristineM]

I was born to a mother who believed in god

That is not what i asked.

 

[ChristineM]

This sentence?

No. It claims
....

Knows. Based on the 100% lack of evidence

 

[Shushersbedamned]

Knows. Based on the 100% lack of evidence

*leaves, based on 100% lack of genuine communication.

 

[ChristineM]

Were you born believing in the Heliocentric theory?

Ahh the old strawman argument.

Ok, I'll bite. No. Nor was i born with knowledge of quantum physics.

 

[Desert Snake]

Knows. Based on the 100% lack of evidence

Know is personal.
What we believe we know, informs our beliefs.

You use the word belief, because inherent know word usage meaning universal truth, is nonsensical.

 

[ChristineM]

*leaves, based on 100% lack of genuine communication.

So provide communication.

 

[ChristineM]

Know is personal.
What we believe we know, informs our beliefs.

You use the word belief, because inherent know word usage meaning universal truth, is nonsensical.

Given the complete lack of evidence, know is a valid word

 

[Desert Snake]

Given the complete lack of evidence, know is a valid word

Yes, for you. You personally believe that you know, that there are no god or gods.

Using the word know, isn't doing anything.

 

[stvdv]

Only one definition, plus variations expounded by religious need to make us like them.
1.2 billion (including agonistic and unaffiliated) individual's

Not what I said nor implied. As long as religious people viciously attack non-believers you better not like them. Best to ignore arrogant people IMO.
If you call all "non-religious" people also a religion called "non-religious" or whatever. It will be one of the biggest religions with 1.2 billion.

 

[ChristineM]

Yes, for you. You personally believe that you know, that there are no god or gods.

Using the word know, isn't doing anything.

May be doing nothing for you.

 

[Desert Snake]

May be doing nothing for you.

What you are doing is making the word 'know', lose its inherent meaning, which is what we personally believe we know.

So, no, you are actually making the word meaningless, and at this point, it probably already is meaningless, anyway, so who cares.

 

[Fool]

Why, why can't you people just read the dictionary before asking questions that only expose your ignorance of a subject.

Atheism is not a belief system, Atheism is a position on belief, the lack of belief in a deity.

Atheism is not a world view, although atheists hold world views that are similar, atheism is still just a position of lack of belief.

Is atheism a science?

wut?

Atheism claims there are no gods,

wrong again, anti theism claims this, and those that identify as Anti theist are also classified as Atheists. Which I can remotely see how it might be confusing.

Atheism is a position on belief or the lack of beliefs.

How can so many people get it wrong so consistently.

just a quick search negates the need of all of these arguments/

sorry but a position is a point of view = philosophy

fyi

position

position - a way of regarding situations or topics etc.; "consider what follows from thepositivist view"


late 14c., as a term in logic and philosophy, from Old French posicion "position, supposition"