Threads about Atheism and what it is.

[Desert Snake]

You seem to me making an awful lot of noise for one who doesn't care.

Please do not insult my intelligence be cause a dictionary definition does not massage your ego.

Not my definition but that of the OED and other dictionaries

Your usage of your meaningless word isn't my problem.

 

[danieldemol]

Great, just what we need, another ten threads debating what atheism is in the same place

 

[ChristineM]

No, that is the same with me, that's why I said "better not like those who viciously attack you". I kick them out of my life immediately, otherwise I might dislike them after a while. They are not worth to stay in my memory as a "dislike". I rather have "likes" in my brain cells.

I did try for 4 years in Baptist Church to point out "their errors" make them listen to logic and common sense. But I have learned by experience that religious people who demean other thinking humans suffer from an incurable disease called "arrogant superiority complex". I read once this is incurable. I could not believe this. I do have quite good reasoning power. But really now i believe it. Aha, NO now I "know" it. They can not be cured of their ignorance. Of course the group I tried it on was only 10.000 so I'm not sure if that counts as scientific proof. But IMHO "I just know for myself now".

Aha you mean with "Freedom of Religion"
"superman powers". I liked superman film, so for me superman is quite nice. For me religion is too hung up with Proselytizing+++
I have been lucky. My parents got fed up with church, so i never was taught many stupid dogma's. And then I found my own Belief System. Only past 6 years I really tried to be open to religions, but now I know that this is very unhealthy people for me. Even being around people who judge my feelings mentally I can feel it now. They can fool themselves, but they can't fool me. And I can't fool myself either. Those people make me sick, really sick. Of course I can block those emotions, but I don't want to block my feelings, so now I block these people instead.

My best friend is a devout born again christian. We have some wonderful arguments. I also have friends from various religions who despite being on one track, at least will discuss religion or atheism with openness and honesty.

However of the 4 times i have been seriously hurt in my life the perpetrators have all been Christian.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Atheism is a position on belief or the lack of beliefs.

How can so many people get it wrong so consistently.

Certainly makes being an atheist easier. Yes I guess proving no God is difficult because an all-powerful God could be hiding from you. You just don't follow nonsense as an atheist. Thanks.

 

[ChristineM]

Great, just what we need, another ten threads debating what atheism is in the same place

Makes a refreshing change from thousands of threads discussing religion eh!

 

[ChristineM]

Your usage of your meaningless word isn't my problem.

DICTIONARY DEFINITION

Sorry if that goes against your personal feelings.

 

[Desert Snake]

I don't know what you mean by a religious understanding, but evidenced belief has very clear advantages, particularly if it means to be convincing.

It seems that this concept varies. Non evidenced belief is very highly valued in for example, some Biblical belief systems.

I have heard some 'religious' people express your sentiment, though.

I would put high value on non evidenced belief, that is traditional, for me.

 

[LuisDantas]

Traditionally, evidence isn't valued more, in some religious belief systems.

It seems to me that this reveals something about those traditions and systems.

 

[stvdv]

My best friend is a devout born again christian. We have some wonderful arguments. I also have friends from various religions who despite being on one track, at least will discuss religion or atheism with openness and honesty.
However of the 4 times i have been seriously hurt in my life the perpetrators have all been Christian.

Nice you met at least a few Christians that do not demean and criticize your heart-feelings. I still have to meet that Christian. I met a few who were on the surface nice. But within a short time they show their real face "My way is the highway, yours is inferior", and I put it nicely here.

I was only seriously hurt by my father and my first girlfriend [both brought up as Christians]. Maybe coincidence, maybe not.

 

[LuisDantas]

It seems that this concept varies. Non evidenced belief is very highly valued in for example, some Biblical belief systems.

I have heard some 'religious' people express your sentiment, though.

I would put high value on non evidenced belief, that is traditional, for me.

The word "hubris" comes to mind.

 

[GoodbyeDave]

Makes a refreshing change from thousands of threads discussing religion eh!

You come to a place called Religious Forums and complain that people are discussing religion?!

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

There is no clear, academic consensus as to how exactly the term should be used. For example, consider the following definitions of ‘atheism’ or ‘atheist’, all taken from serious scholarly writings published in the last ten years

1. ‘Atheism […] is the belief that there is no God or gods’ (Baggini 2003: 3)
2. ‘At its core, atheism […] designates a position (not a “belief”) that includes or asserts no god(s)’ (Eller 2010: 1)
3. ‘[A]n atheist is someone without a belief in God; he or she need not be someone who believes that God does not exist’ (Martin 2007: 1)
4. ‘[A]n atheist does not believe in the god that theism favours’ (Cliteur 2009: 1)
5. ‘By “atheist,” I mean precisely what the word has always been understood to mean—a principled and informed decision to reject belief in God’ (McGrath 2004: 175)

The Oxford Handbook of Atheism

We have a handbook? Why wasn’t I issued the handbook? I filled out all my atheist registration forms.

“Definitions” 3 through 5 above are responses only to monotheism. 3 and 5 go a step further (narrower?) by only being responses to monotheistic gods named “God.”

Do you consider a polytheist an atheist? More to the point, do you think that people in general consider polytheists atheists?

 

[ChristineM]

You come to a place called Religious Forums and complain that people are discussing religion?!

Complain? I think not, i more extracting the Michael from @danieldemol 's post.

 

[ChristineM]

We have a handbook? Why wasn’t I issued the handbook? I filled out all my atheist registration forms.

“Definitions” 3 through 5 above are responses only to monotheism. 3 and 5 go a step further (narrower?) by only being responses to monotheistic gods named “God.”

Do you consider a polytheist an atheist? More to the point, do you think that people in general consider polytheists atheists?

More that monotheists should be classed as 99.99% atheists they dont believe in any god but one

Less so polytheists, they have a belief in more than one/many gods

 

[osgart]

Atheism shouldnt be anything controversial. Anti theism is. I mean who are the theists hurting anyways?

 

[ChristineM]

Atheism shouldnt be anything controversial. Anti theism is. I mean who are the theists hurting anyways?

Me! 4 times in my life but c'est la vie

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Why, why can't you people just read the dictionary before asking questions that only expose your ignorance of a subject.

Atheism is not a belief system, Atheism is a position on belief, the lack of belief in a deity.

Atheism is not a world view, although atheists hold world views that are similar, atheism is still just a position of lack of belief.

Is atheism a science?

wut?

Atheism claims there are no gods,

wrong again, anti theism claims this, and those that identify as Anti theist are also classified as Atheists. Which I can remotely see how it might be confusing.

Atheism is a position on belief or the lack of beliefs.

How can so many people get it wrong so consistently.

just a quick search negates the need of all of these arguments/

Everything else is fine.

Anti (against) theism means against belief in god(s)
A (opposite) theism means the opposite of belief in god(s)
Atheism, by strict definition, states: disbelief in god(s)
Antitheism, by strict definition, says against belief in god(s)

Not all atheist are antitheist. In my opinion, if an atheist were anti-theist, I wouldnt know which god(s) he is against if he believes they dont exist

Not all antitheist are atheist. Many are against god(s) even tbough they believe they exist.

Everyone has their personal variation of these definitions. It depends on the atheist and antheist themselves.

 

[osgart]

Me! 4 times in my life but c'est la vie

Those would be the fundamentalists i assume, the ones who judge in the name of God with condemnation to try to save souls?

Im no fundamentalist.

 

[osgart]

Am i wrong in assuming that this is a hot issue?

Bitterly contested in fact.

Perhaps those religions who are non condemnational will survive.

I think fundamentalism is doomed quite frankly.

 

[Kenny]

So why are you guys constantly trying to diss us or convert us?

LOL... NEVER... i just try to stop you from converting us and to diss us