Threads about Atheism and what it is.

[ChristineM]

Those would be the fundamentalists i assume, the ones who judge in the name of God with condemnation to try to save souls?

Im no fundamentalist.

Nope, just ordinary, everyday christians

 

[Augustus]

We have a handbook? Why wasn’t I issued the handbook? I filled out all my atheist registration forms.

Oxford handbooks are collections of scholarly texts organised on a common theme and published by Oxford University Press. One such theme is atheism.

"Oxford Handbooks offer authoritative and up-to-date surveys of original research in a particular subject area. Specially commissioned essays from leading figures in the discipline give critical examinations of the progress and direction of debates, as well as a foundation for future research. Oxford Handbooks provide scholars and graduate students with compelling new perspectives upon a wide range of subjects in the humanities and social sciences."

Definitions” 3 through 5 above are responses only to monotheism. 3 and 5 go a step further (narrower?) by only being responses to monotheistic gods named “God.”

So? Write a letter of complaint to the cited authors.

The quote was there to show diversity of opinion in best usage, even among scholars, because some people here think there is only one possible use and everyone who disagrees is either incredibly stupid or rabidly agenda driven. That people could simply have different opinions on a subjective issue seems not to be an option many have considered.

Do you consider a polytheist an atheist?

You know the answer to this.

More to the point, do you think that people in general consider polytheists atheists?

Ask them.

 

[ChristineM]

LOL... NEVER... i just try to stop you from converting us and to diss us

Never... Wow tell that to some of your buddies.

 

[Kenny]

Never... Wow tell that to some of your buddies.

Like you are telling me that atheists don't try to stop people from believing?

You are pretty cool Christine!

 

[osgart]

Nope, just ordinary, everyday christians

There are so many different types of christians. Im wondering what constitutes christianity anymore.

 

[stvdv]

Never... Wow tell that to some of your buddies.

Like you are telling me that atheists don't try to stop people from believing?
You are pretty cool Christine!

Thank you KenS for your confession, I was just thinking "NEVER ... this can't be true. And a Pastor can't hold up a lie too long I think."
So you were 1 step ahead of me. Good on you.

But I can tell you, I never try to "stop people from believing" NOR "tell them to believe"
I tell the atheist "good on you, become the best atheist"
I tell the theist "good on you, become the best theist"

 

[lewisnotmiller]

It is a bad sign that in general atheists are easily annoyed.

Australia is full of atheists. Is our reputation on of being easily annoyed?
Sweden? Finland? New Zealand?

Methinks your prejudice is showing.

 

[stvdv]

Atheism, by strict definition, states: disbelief in god(s)
Antitheism, by strict definition, says against belief in god(s)
Not all atheist are antitheist. In my opinion, if an atheist were anti-theist, I wouldnt know which god(s) he is against if he believes they dont exist
Not all antitheist are atheist. Many are against god(s) even tbough they believe they exist.

It's getting quite tricky. So at least (atheist can't be an antitheist) & (antitheist can't be an atheist)
That makes sense, you can't be against something if you don't believe it exists.
I wonder how long it will take for the atheists to beat the 34000 denominations Christians have

 

[stvdv]

It seems that this concept varies. Non evidenced belief is very highly valued in for example, some Biblical belief systems.
I have heard some 'religious' people express your sentiment, though.
I would put high value on non evidenced belief, that is traditional, for me.

The word "hubris" comes to mind.

We are talking here about verses John 20:19-29
I believe everyone interprets this verse wrong. When you read all these verses very careful and when you can read between the lines you see a complete different meaning of this verse. Which makes sense for a "true Christian" as well as a "true Buddhist" IMHO.

 

[Kenny]

Thank you KenS for your confession, I was just thinking "NEVER ... this can't be true. And a Pastor can't hold up a lie too long I think."
So you were 1 step ahead of me. Good on you.

But I can tell you, I never try to "stop people from believing" NOR "tell them to believe"
I tell the atheist "good on you, become the best atheist"
I tell the theist "good on you, become the best theist"

I couldn't help but make that statement. It keeps things light.

I think we have the same position. Everyone has every right to think as they want to think. The options are out there but Jesus never said "Force them to believe"... actually he said "Come to me those who are thirsty"... sounds like a "free to believe" offer to me.

 

[LuisDantas]

Atheism shouldnt be anything controversial. Anti theism is. I mean who are the theists hurting anyways?

Anyone and everyone who feels the ill advised consequences of their beliefs, of course.

 

[stvdv]

I couldn't help but make that statement. It keeps things light.

I think we have the same position. Everyone has every right to think as they want to think. The options are out there but Jesus never said "Force them to believe"... actually he said "Come to me those who are thirsty"... sounds like a "free to believe" offer to me.

Yes, I understand that it's good to keep things light. But our conscience luckily doesn't let us get away with "white lies" or "light untruth" anymore

That would be fantastic. I believe "All religions are pathways to God. And Atheism and humanism are not excluded". Because all have "Love" in them. And therefore I believe "There is one religion, the religion of Love". And I know this truth also:"Judge one of God's children and I judge God".

I am glad we have the same position here

 

[Shushersbedamned]

Australia is full of atheists. Is our reputation on of being easily annoyed?
Sweden? Finland? New Zealand?

Methinks your prejudice is showing.

Australia is full of atheists?

 

[ChristineM]

Like you are telling me that atheists don't try to stop people from believing?

You are pretty cool Christine!

Can't speak for all, but most will try to explain their viewpoint which is difficult if you have no common frame of reference. Perhaps you see this as attempts to persuade

 

[ChristineM]

There are so many different types of christians. Im wondering what constitutes christianity anymore.

50,000+ (and growing daily) sects, 200+ English language versions of the bible (who knows how many in other languages?). Each sect interpreting the version of the bible they choose as theirs in their own particular way. Is it any wonder chrisianity is so fragmented

 

[Shushersbedamned]

Can't speak for all, but most will try to explain their viewpoint which is difficult if you have no common frame of reference. Perhaps you see this as attempts to persuade

No. That's not it.

 

[ChristineM]

No. That's not it.

Perhaps you could ask @KenS for his views rather than deciding for him

 

[Shushersbedamned]

Perhaps you could ask @KenS for his views rather than deciding for him

I didn't decide anything - I simply informed you that your insinuation is incorrect.

 

[ChristineM]

I didn't decide anything - I simply informed you that your insinuation is incorrect.

So you not only speak for @KenS, you also assume to speak for all atheists.

 

[Shushersbedamned]

So you not only speak for @KenS, you also assume to speak for all atheists.

Have it any way you like. Just stop talking for a moment and staining the silence.