We Never Know
No Slack
Broke his own record.
"The three longest presidential nomination acceptance speeches in history: Trump (2016), Trump (2020) and Trump (2024)."
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To end the election tonight
- Thread starter Wirey
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"The three longest presidential nomination acceptance speeches in history: Trump (2016), Trump (2020) and Trump (2024)."
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
Apparently he thinks everything he says is important.
wellwisher
Well-Known Member
What JD Vance described. above, was due the Democrat Party and Swamp; Globalism at the expense of the US working class. Trump's new position and that of the RNC is actually closer to the Democrat party of the late President JF Kennedy; Golden Generation was in charge.
Many of the Swing states, which will decide the election are part of what is called the Rust Belt. These were once major manufacturing States; Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, etc, that due to the regulatory state of the DNC; EPA, and NAFTA and other trade agreements, saw companies go to Mexico and then overseas too China, taking away their jobs. It left behind disaster for the residence; few good jobs, crime, drugs and poverty.
The Democrat created a regulatory and tax environment that incentivize this loss of jobs, since they wanted a dependent welfare state. The working people were too independent and not a sure vote that you could scare or lead with food stamps. They recently tried to screw the entire US auto manufacturer industry with electric vehicle mandates that buy batteries from China. Most of the solar energy equipment being pushed, comes from China. Even when the DNC uses tax payer dollars to start Domestic green energy it goes belly up due to their overbearing regulation.
The open borders, especially under Biden, brought in cheap labor, lots of drugs and even criminals from other countries. The cheap labor also messed up good construction jobs; blue collar Americans. JD Vance's family was impacted by the loss of jobs and the flood of drugs caused by the open border and Globalist Democrats. The Blue Collar people were hurt the worse, even if the ruling class, Big Business and Wall Street did well. These blue collar workers are part of both parties. JD Vance was chosen since his story is their story and will help take the country back, by appealing to both sides, except the elite, who are now in panic mode. Their old puppet no longer fools anyone, and they need a new puppet who will do the bidding of the swamp Cabal, but it has to look like a fair Democratic process.
The RNC Strategy to help the Blue Collar American.
We have to seal the border and deport anyone here illegally. These people can then start the legal immigration process, from their own country. Blue Collar people are law abiding people who are pro legal immigration. We bring them as we can absorb them without creating hardship for citizens.The crooks in the DNC are pro-illegal immigration. Birds of a feather flock together.
This move will get rid of some of some drugs, crime and cheap labor and help the American worker get a pay raise to compensate for the inflation cause by the DNC; if reduce the supply of cheap illegal workers the wages will go up. Next, we place tariff on products coming from other countries that place tariffs on our goods going there. The DNC has set it up for money to go overseas. The crooks get a cut. This will incentivize manufacturing to come back to the USA if the math is set up to be cheaper to produce and sell, here. This adds jobs for union and nonunion workers.
The Supreme Court decision no longer allows the regulatory state to make laws, since that is the Constitutional job of Congress. The red tape got out of control due to no checks and balances, The Democrats can no longer bypass the checks and balances of Congress to force change and rip off the people. This will make it easier to shrink the swamp and have sane regulations that help the working class and not be designed to get donations from Big Business. Many of these rules squeeze out the small businesses of the middle class in flavor of larger corporations, who have economies of scale and extra write offs and pay less taxes.
To pay for this, Trump wants the USA to be the energy capital of the world. We will become an exporter of cheap energy. Cheap energy lowers all costs, since energy is a large expense both for business, consumers, home owners and renters, and is one of the drivers of inflation. This also stabilizes the world since Europe and the free world will be less dependent on buying energy from Russia, Iran, Venezuela, who are all Fascists like the swamp and DNC leadership. They all use lawfare to go after political opponents, with phony charges that do not apply to themselves.
This time around the RNC is better prepared for the expected swamp sabotage via the misuse of the regulatory state. What I heard is they are going to get rid of the Department of Education and send it to the States, who then can opt out of the centralized brain washing model of the DNC and set up their own way that benefits their citizens. The Liberal states can choose brain washing if they want. While the Conservative state can pray in school. Then we can compare side by side. I would do the same with the Welfare State. The War Against Poverty has made no ground in over 50 years. We needs new ideas and that incompetent bureaucracy out of the way.
When the swamp and DNC say Trump is a threat to the Country, he is really a threat to the elitist Cabal and he may finally drain the swamp so the American working class and the American dream of self sufficiency can be realized once again.
Yerda
Veteran Member
"Look, we disagree about some little stuff like making life as hard as possible for immigrants and Muslims, and also on hanging out with Epstein, sexually assaulting women, dodging taxes and undoing the checks and balances that make democracy possible but we all agree on the big stuff like...um...stiffing countractors whenever possible?"
Wirey
Fartist
I didn't say they did agree, I said Trump could say that and considering the shambles the Dems are right now, it might work.
And he did say it.
Did Trump knock it out of the ballpark? No. A tight and fiery speech might have done the trick...
Instead, he gave a long, rambling, sedated yet still contentious presentation, in which he seemed to be reading off the teleprompter, and got virtually none of the overwhelming cheers and chants he expects at every full stop. He looked and sounded like the tired old man that he is. (in my opinion)
His base probably loved it. I doubt that he appealed to any of the independents he needs to win over...who are also uninterested in voting for Biden
Instead, he gave a long, rambling, sedated yet still contentious presentation, in which he seemed to be reading off the teleprompter, and got virtually none of the overwhelming cheers and chants he expects at every full stop. He looked and sounded like the tired old man that he is. (in my opinion)
His base probably loved it. I doubt that he appealed to any of the independents he needs to win over...who are also uninterested in voting for Biden
We Never Know
No Slack
IMO he didn't need to hit it out of the ballpark with the turmoil going on in the dem camp. All he needed was a hit.
In that case, I think he made a clean miss.
He was low key, which is exactly what he needed to be given recent events and suggests he’s serious about unity over further division.
Unity...as long as it's behind him and his stated policies and positions...
We Never Know
No Slack
Just another thing he will say as "You know you did that? I did that"
Listen again.Unity...as long as it's behind him and his stated policies and positions...
once was more than enough, thanks anyway.
There was absolutely nothing new, and certainly nothing except appealing to everyone to get behind him against The Democrat Party...
I understand that you see/hear it differently than I do. Got it, no worries.
I’m not a Trump or Maga person if that’s what you think. But his tone was different. Those who say otherwise are in denial.
His tone was as it's mostly been since his trial...sedated, rambling, repetitious. He did not sound like someone trying to appeal to the middle by offering some support for moderate positions, he was asking the middle to get behind him at his extreme, as he's been all through this campaign. If that's a 'different tone,' well, okay. To me, he looked and sounded like an old man who was up past his bedtime. At least as bad as Biden.
“At least as bad as Biden” shows your bias.
Which is what, exactly?
That I think both candidates are too old for the job? Yeah, sure.
PureX
Veteran Member
No, he can't.
Trump is a narcissistic sociopath. His brain does not cognate empathy or concern for anyone but himself. I am sure his campaign people are telling him to do exactly as you suggest, but he will not be able to. He is already back on the path of threatening his "enemies" and blaming Biden for all sorts of idiotic conspiracies and claiming he won the last election and all that crazy divisive nonsense. He can't help himself. He is effectively an idiot. A one-track brain that sees nothing but it's own desires and necessities. His campaign has been rewriting his and other republican;s speeches to try and pose the party as this new "calming, uniting" entity. But already a bunch of republicans have been throwing around all kinds of wild accusations and calling for extreme responses. The whole pack of them are lost to this divisive insanity. They think they MUST play into it to get elected, and getting elected is ALL THAT MATTERS to them.
So none of them wlll be able to shut up and behave like statesmen. Not even for a couple of months. Because they aren't statesmen. They are con-men, and sociapaths, and maniacal egosists just like Trump.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
To a lot of people it is important.