To my conservative friends in the USA against LGBT rights

[ShivaFan]

Ok, of course gays have the right to marry, and I am even open to States if, they get the votes behind them, allowing men to marry multiple wives. But I think marriage should be based on social status, money, "moving up", economics arrangements, etc. and not love. But I am old fashioned. I told my daughter I was going to play a key role in her arrangement, and she rebelled.

But I think there needs to be legislation and license behind marriage, not courts to decide nor "love" - the real reason for the license is to protect children Marriage is not a "right", it is a priveledge and a license, only Legislatures, Kings, Temples and Churches can give the license, paper, gold ring, etc... Not courts. We cannot have people simply breeding children then dumping them to the state and the rulers and taxpayers.

So for example, you can marry 5 women but you have to prove you have the income to support them, put down a 220 thousand bond for each extra wife in an escroe, you pay a tax, and the voters decide in their State what will be, not courts and "rights".

There is no natural right to this. That is why it is not in a Constitution of a Republic. It is not there. It must be the local legislature to decide, not court, not constitution. After you get the license, you then MUST love the other or go to jail. Don't be so pompus. Even if she is not pretty, you MUST LOVE or be arrested. And you will love. You will see it happen. And each realm might be different. But, what granted in one realm must be respected if you move after. But you continue to pay tax to the realm you married in, in addition to the new realm.

This is the way for 1000, 5000 years.

Sorry.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Ok, of course gays have the right to marry, and I am even open to States if, they get the votes behind them, allowing men to marry multiple wives. But I think marriage should be based on social status, money, "moving up", economics arrangements, etc. and not love. But I am old fashioned. I told my daughter I was going to play a key role in her arrangement, and she rebelled.

But I think there needs to be legislation and license behind marriage, not courts to decide nor "love" - the real reason for the license is to protect children Marriage is not a "right", it is a priveledge and a license, only Legislatures, Kings, Temples and Churches can give the license, paper, gold ring, etc... Not courts. We cannot have people simply breeding children then dumping them to the state and the rulers and taxpayers.

So for example, you can marry 5 women but you have to prove you have the income to support them, put down a 220 thousand bond for each extra wife in an escroe, you pay a tax, and the voters decide in their State what will be, not courts and "rights".

There is no natural right to this. That is why it is not in a Constitution of a Republic. It is not there. It must be the local legislature to decide, not court, not constitution. After you get the license, you then MUST love the other or go to jail. Don't be so pompus. Even if she is not pretty, you MUST LOVE or be arrested. And you will love. You will see it happen. And each realm might be different. But, what granted in one realm must be respected if you move after. But you continue to pay tax to the realm you married in, in addition to the new realm.

This is the way for 1000, 5000 years.

Sorry.

Super traditionalist! Maybe you're a monarchist?

 

[dust1n]

You mean leftist liberals like Putin won, and rightist conservatives like Cameron lost?

Thank God, now the homosexuals can rest in peace, because it is all in the hands of five honorable liberals who only have their good interests in mind. So all can not bother to think their own mind, anymore. They have the power, and they will always do the right thing with such power. Today... and for all days to come.

But I think there needs to be legislation and license behind marriage, not courts to decide nor "love" - the real reason for the license is to protect children Marriage is not a "right", it is a priveledge and a license, only Legislatures, Kings, Temples and Churches can give the license, paper, gold ring, etc... Not courts. We cannot have people simply breeding children then dumping them to the state and the rulers and taxpayers.

So for example, you can marry 5 women but you have to prove you have the income to support them, put down a 220 thousand bond for each extra wife in an escroe, you pay a tax, and the voters decide in their State what will be, not courts and "rights".

I'm sure Americans will be all over your pay-to-breed program. I find your characterization of the power exercised to allow homosexuals to have their marriages recognized and the social and financial benefits that come with it as being intrusive and oppressive funny, will you simply have no problem with an even more intrusive power determining who and when people can love, marry and have children.

Ah, the liberal dictator state is forcing the freedom for an individual to marry who they want upon us. If only the republic validated every romantic partnership and every child born will we be free from.... poor people.

 

[Jainarayan]

Marriage is not a "right", it is a priveledge and a license, only Legislatures, Kings, Temples and Churches can give the license, paper, gold ring, etc... Not courts.

• Marriage is a right in the US, as determined by Loving v. Virginia.
• The states do control marriage: minimum age, degree of consanguinity, other parameters. If not for the loony-toon Christian far right ramming illegal state bans through, this would probably be a non-issue, with states seeing no reason to deny same sex marriages.
• No marriage performed by any clergy or even public servant is valid without a state issued license.
• The courts decide, via lawsuits brought to them if the marriage laws are legal relative to the state or US constitutions. No court, despite what people are spouting, makes laws.

It is a complete mystery to me why these simple facts are lost on so many people.

 

[Wirey]

It is a complete mystery to me why these simple facts are lost on so many people.

They aren't in the Bible. You know, that book about love I hold up while I scream at gay people?

 

[Jainarayan]

They aren't in the Bible. You know, that book about love I hold up while I scream at gay people?

Troo, i be propurly edumacated now.

 

[EyeofOdin]

Clarifying to those defending non homophobic conservatism or pointing out left wing homophobic socialism:

I was talking about the conservatives who are homophobic, and sure liberals can be included if they are too, in the context of US politics. I'm well aware of political variances outside of American politics.