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MNoBody

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Firstly one must identify the problem. Just one at a time because solving them all with one solution is impossible.

Global climate change. The planet's climate has been in constant change since it's birth. This affects everything on the planet. Species adapt or go extinct.

How does any religious bible written before they knew the problem solve the problem?
first, why would you be suggesting it does? what is this in response to?
 

PAUL MARKHAM

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Only the Christians have a Bible. No one else uses that word (well. and LaVey Satanists with the Satanic Bible). Book of the Dead, Quran, Bhagavad Gita, Upanishads, Kojiki, Tao Te Ching, Tanakh, Four Books. Some cultures had no written texts.
And I'm not aware of many, Christians included, who worship their text. I'm not sure if any do.
I use the word bible to describe all the sacred books people follow as holy. Could mean the Torah, Quran, Vedas, etc Sacred Texts Of Major World Religions
 

PAUL MARKHAM

Well-Known Member
I could be misunderstanding what I read of course, but it seems many Hindu scriptures speak of not being attached to (as I will now eloquently put), junk, crap, useless plastic bobbles, and other meaningless noise that most of humanity wastes their life trying to collect. Earth is our Mother, and is to be respected and treated as such, not drained of her lifeblood to entertain a greedy population. (Most Pagan religions share this view of earth, as well.)

I think these views are fairly supportive of what science recommends we do.
Then there is one that's on the right track.
 

PAUL MARKHAM

Well-Known Member
I mean, I consider scientific works to be religious works given the sciences is the study of the gods when your gods are literally nature and the universe and everything, so.... uhm.... does that count? :D
Evolution is responsible for nature, the universe and everything.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Pretty sure most religious texts don’t command their followers to pollute the earth.
I could be wrong though since I haven’t read them. But I think even Jesus was against poisoning the earth. I mean I hear certain Christians claim they are meant to be the caretakers of the planet god (and/or evolution) has gifted them. Granted fossil fuels and pollution have an even more powerful ally in the form of money. Something that corrupts many. But still
:shrug:
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
I could be misunderstanding what I read of course, but it seems many Hindu scriptures speak of not being attached to (as I will now eloquently put), junk, crap, useless plastic bobbles, and other meaningless noise that most of humanity wastes their life trying to collect. Earth is our Mother, and is to be respected and treated as such, not drained of her lifeblood to entertain a greedy population. (Most Pagan religions share this view of earth, as well.)

I think these views are fairly supportive of what science recommends we do.
This is true. Though “attachments” are usually something that holds a person back from ultimate enlightenment. The definition of which does vary and depends on context.
That said earth and nature are more often than not deified and worshipped across the board of Hindu devotees. So your interpretation is justified.
To destroy earth is to destroy our mother. Pagan and Hindu hippies unite!!
 

Ponder This

Well-Known Member
Firstly one must identify the problem. Just one at a time because solving them all with one solution is impossible.

Global climate change. The planet's climate has been in constant change since it's birth. This affects everything on the planet. Species adapt or go extinct.

How does any religious bible written before they knew the problem solve the problem?

Didn't the Bible mention a big flood?
And didn't they solve the problem by building an Ark?

Just saying.
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
Firstly one must identify the problem. Just one at a time because solving them all with one solution is impossible.

Global climate change. The planet's climate has been in constant change since it's birth. This affects everything on the planet. Species adapt or go extinct.

How does any religious bible written before they knew the problem solve the problem?
It's a contrived problem. They've had weather control for sometime. Wild fires can be caused by directed energy weapons from space. Part of soviet military doctrine against usa included commandos starting wild fires. This is no longer necessary thanks to directed energy weapons. Asymmetrical warfare has never been easier. The whole climate change initiative is a cover story.

Solving this problem means the government coming clean on just how advanced tech has become in secret and opening up accountability to the people of this planet. I understand keeping things secret from our enemies but when our enemies already know then you have to ask who is the real enemies? Maybe it's you, the general public.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Evolution is responsible for nature, the universe and everything.

No, evolution is the mechanism responsible for biological diversity according to human sciences. It's not postulated to be responsible for the origin of life, nor the universe and everything as a whole in any sciences I'm aware of (other than, perhaps the "sciences" as misunderstood by certain individuals I suppose). In any case, not really sure what your point is?
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Firstly one must identify the problem. Just one at a time because solving them all with one solution is impossible.

Global climate change. The planet's climate has been in constant change since it's birth. This affects everything on the planet. Species adapt or go extinct.

How does any religious bible written before they knew the problem solve the problem?
Science. Human aware consciousness. Informed just like the rest of us. Books written about the science mentality claiming beginnings. When life sacrificed attacked in their head brain conscious condition quoted we survived the conscious body attack and we lived on.

As that reasoning. Scientific advice.

Only the interpreter of science lied claimed we were saved. We really only survived. The theme because ice returned each year. Was newly replaced. As taught.

Science said relative advice. No beginning. No end. Every highest natural body formed to support us existed created.

Relative self advice. Therefore never change any highest state. Commonsense if you owned the use of it as a conscious teaching.

Human self says in self presence I thought for science. Science never thought for me. Teachings about self consciousness already taught us all science is a liar about why consciousness the head and thinker got irradiated. Life lived on changed.


If a human quotes science attacked sacrificed life then they were informed. If a human self decided to self deitize their own purpose as a super conscious falsity. Then they did. Teachings self awareness.

You cannot complain when your own human advice said science would sacrifice life. Because it does. Science preached the God idealism.

Super humanism idealism in science was what we fought against. The actual subject in science false self reasoning and idealism. About ownership of everything. We don't own what existed before we did as it existed without us.

We said we only own one day at a time equally with every other earth life. We said we only survived for 100 years C the value. Commonsense. Science does not use common everyday sense. They infer self deisms.

Why the statement taught is real no man is God. Completely ignored. How come science self. The answer superior inference by the self explanation of self deism. The true reason.

Obviously you ignored your own life lesson. Male humans are the science theist thinker inventor. Who claimed their self thinking reasoned on behalf of all existence as if they personally created it by thinking.

Obvious if you cared to reason why science attacked us by changing natural by their intentions to impose a beginning when there never was a beginning.
 

MikeF

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Evolution is responsible for nature, the universe and everything.
I think The Theory of Evolution only describes the change of heritable characteristics of biological organisms over time. Other theories are used to describe the makeup of the universe and it's perceived constant state of change.
 

MikeF

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
No, evolution is the mechanism responsible for biological diversity according to human sciences. It's not postulated to be responsible for the origin of life, nor the universe and everything as a whole in any sciences I'm aware of (other than, perhaps the "sciences" as misunderstood by certain individuals I suppose). In any case, not really sure what your point is?
I am curious about the use of the word "human" as an adjective to modify the word science. It makes it sound like you are contrasting it to alien science or some other non-human science.
 

Clara Tea

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Satan rules by deception. Satan destroy's God's creations (environmenet, life).



There is a difference of opinion regarding Global Warming. Theists are befuddled with lies, and don't hear the truth from scientists.



The partial truth is that Global Warming is a natural process. The whole truth is that mankind's influence is accelerating Global Warming. With limited understanding scientists initially gave us 1,000 years to cope with Global Warming, and that "might" be enough time for species to adapt. But, they failed to understand that the warming things get, the more the ice melts, and that releases more carbon dioxide (greenhouse gas), which accelerates the process.



We are currently beyond the point of using conservation to fix Global Warming. Nova's recent show says that various methods must be simultaneously deployed.



Theists don't believe in evolution, so they don't believe that animals could adapt to warmer condtions. Proof of evolution is all around us (DNA, etc). Even the viruses that we battle mutate (evolve) to overcome vaccines, so the flu vaccine must be changed each year. It takes a long time to develop and new vaccine, and it might be too late to cure the mutated version. Already, COVID has the original and mutated version. There might be yet another version (airborne, rather than spit-born, which would spread rapidly, go directly to lungs, and masks would be almost ineffectual).



Rewriting the Rules: The Bush Administration's First Term Environmental Record



Link above: W. Bush made 150 actions to undermine environmental protection.



Bush administration accused of doctoring scientists' reports on climate change



Link above: The W. Bush administration ordered scientists not to use the term "Global Warming."



Bush Team Is Reversing Environmental Policies (Published 2001)



Link above: W. Bush administration reversed Clinton's environmental policies.



POLITICS: The Bush team censored climate reports. Some fear Trump more



Link above: In 2002, W. Bush removed the chapter on climate change from the annual EPA report.



ALTERING THE INTERNET:



The Department of Justice is a cabinet department of the president, and the president is in charge. The CIA is part of that department, and the president is in charge. President W. Bush (with Dick Cheney) ordered the CIA to rewrite Wikipedia and blogs, to alter public perception.



W. Bush's approval rating was the lowest in history, after it was leaked out that he had torture camps for the victims of the war against peaceful Iraq. Among Blacks, W. Bush's approval rating was lower than Jefferson Davis's approval rating during the Civil War, and Davis was the president of the Confederacy. Newspapers had been bolstering his W. Bush's reputation, refusing to print information about the 1,000,000 Iraqi dead, for fear that it would hurt the war effort. W. Bush warned us not to judge him by polls, but judge him in the annals of history (after the CIA alters perceptions of that history, of course).



CIA, FBI computers used for Wikipedia edits



Link above: CIA and FBI computers were used to alter Wikipedia articles (including Iraq war and Guantanamo prisoners).



I believe that Global Warming articles were similarly altered, and regular citizens would have been punished if they had tried to write the truth.



W. Bush's Wikipedia article said that W. Bush "handled complaints" about the Guantanamo torture camp, and failed to mention the various forms of torture, including waterboarding in icewater to cause frostbite, gangrene, and amputations.



POLITICS: The Bush team censored climate reports. Some fear Trump more



In 2002, W. Bush deleted the section of the EPA report on air pollution and Global Warming.



Ex-EPA scientists to release air pollution report they say agency unqualified to issue



Link above: Fired EPA scientists to release air pollution report they say agency unqualified to issue.



E.P.A. Chief Whitman Resigns (Published 2003)



Link above: EPA head, Christine Whitman resigned after W. Bush rewrote the EPA's environmental report about Global Warming.


All of the above is about Global Warming, but what about all of the other problems of today? President Trump said that he would cut the National Debt, but continued adding to it at the same pace as his predecessors.

Forest fires (W. Bush altered the way we deal with those), COVID, homelessness, middle class becoming part of the poor class, killer giant Asian hornets, Global Warming, tree borers destroying forests, economic meltdown, etc.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Conscious self human science thinking worded theism. His story. Self possession by history machine caused to natural earth body.

Quoted in memory DNA. Proven child reincarnation theme. Human sex is life continuance. We remember past adult life choices.

Theme science based originally as original theism of human science choice and invention on flooded water earth sealed stone reasoning. Earth natural history the God body.

Mountain Ain inferred meaning mount plus Ain zero above water line. Pyramid reasoning. Radiation fission to flat top mountain. Reason for flat top mountains historically.

Information image vision owned only by science stone reaction itself. Not human owned. Our atmosphere not reactive fission.

God body owned highest coldest energy history. Science began and ended to stone fission changes. Highest science event.

Human thinker highest conscious realisation.

Science conscious memories. The status itself. Versus. Machine X mass of stone to own machine plus human controlled reaction. Not natural but AI by intent. Artificial control.

Machine the artificial destroyer of natural God fusion.

Killed burnt fallout all life a long time ago. Radiation fission result. Of planet mass to remove X mass presence cold held mass fusion.

Earth then becomes smaller body of mass. Radiation released out of earth stone set fire in heavens by unnatural gas mass burning event. Reason why. Reasoned modern times by Stephen Hawking.

Amount of unnatural radiation does not begin as coldest gases that supports natural daylight. Gases radiating burning no comparison to lightning event.

Machine parts found evidenced inside of opened earth fusion.

Moses event. Modern day science. Near destruction loss of all life when memory science regained. Copied that attacked life history. Why the thesis story is very old.

Known by Bible writer theist.

Science today quotes theme new thesis as if physical mass of machine gone out of mass is an ideal but radiation conversion reaction still active. As a pre theist realisation. Machine X mass is actually gone.

Not a new idea. The reaction is not science controlled the machine is gone itself as historic activator. The life lesson.

Conversion controlled by machine yet nature radiation reactive activated. Science lost machine control.


Mind said a false AI science mind possession status via human memory. Gave self a falsely idealised theme which is already active about mass disappearance per machine in God earth.

Already occurred historically.

As if machine X mass no longer was physically present. As if he just thought about it to occur in a new reactive cause yet self and new machine would be safe. Falsely claimed mind actual notification actually as it was already relative.

Warning to self all informed advice already exists active is not theorised in reality by the egotist.

As if God stone mass was now the active machine. By a thought upon reasoning. Was actually told that information.

Exactly how a modern mind quotes God the earth. As if it is relative to a machination. As an earth body theme.

As the radiation reaction no longer human thesis nor machine controlled was just now earth released.

They fake theoried because of the mind psyche effect. Already warned and taught as self deism mind destroyer effect. To lie in human cause machine his story of causes.

Reason for the teachings about scientific self destruction mind defective beliefs. Self possession as a false creator idea.

Machine history of causes the effect. Machine no longer active or present. The controlled reaction by machine caused radiating mass release once was owned controlled by the machine inside the machine using mass mined earth mass abstracted by workers.

To then own no control in earth fusion reacting as was already earth releasing.

Removed machine body X natural mass in natural history out of earth fusion. No machine body in physical representation. Overlooked by scientist. Virtually.

The warning literal.
 
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night912

Well-Known Member
No, evolution is the mechanism responsible for biological diversity according to human sciences. It's not postulated to be responsible for the origin of life, nor the universe and everything as a whole in any sciences I'm aware of (other than, perhaps the "sciences" as misunderstood by certain individuals I suppose). In any case, not really sure what your point is?
No, evolution is not exclusive to just biological diversity. The Theory of Evolution is accurate to what you are describing.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Satan rules by deception. Satan destroy's God's creations (environmenet, life).
I do not believe there is such as entity called Satan. As long as people hold such superstitious beliefs they will never take any responsibility for their own actions or do anything to change the world.

Satan does not do anything because Satan does not exist. He is a creation of the Christian religion.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Firstly one must identify the problem. Just one at a time because solving them all with one solution is impossible.

Global climate change. The planet's climate has been in constant change since it's birth. This affects everything on the planet. Species adapt or go extinct.

How does any religious bible written before they knew the problem solve the problem?
Who says the bible is meant to solve this sort of problem? The Bible is a book about faith and morals. It is not a science textbook.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
Edited it afterwards.

I'm all ears if you know of a religious bible that has solutions to climate change.

Most religious solutions to extreme problems was to adapt and not try to change the will of higher powers. For example, in Noah's Ark, Noah was not trying to avoid the change; flood, but was adapting to the needs of the change. He did not go into denial, or become arrogant with the idea he could change his fate. He flowed with the change; literally, while also adapting to the needs of survival and his future re-adaptation.

The Jews were sent into exile and slavery. They adapted until something changed again. It is called faith.

Climate change has been occurring for billions of years. The geological evidence shows us that climate change is not new. For example, the glaciers have been melting since the end of the last ice age. New York City was once under a mile of glacier. Since the ice age ended, the glaciers that covered NYC have retreated a thousand mile north. Man had nothing to do with that. Today is a continuation of something started long ago. New land is being made available for the growing world populations. All that climate change over the past 100,000 years led to the rise of humanity and not its decline.

The bone heads in power have the idea that is we alter national and international behavior, we can alter this natural cycle, so nothing has to change ever again.. They are saying they are not able to adapt but wish to stop time. This is a bone head solution from politicians, who have a self serving angle; perpetual power and relevance. It would be better to maintain the safe areas, while adapting in those areas that see long term stresses.

The experts said the polar caps would be melted by now, several times. The term Experts must have a new meaning when it comes to climate change. It seems to mean clueless. These same experts want to be in charge of fighting something they do not fully understand.

Say Gore and the rest of the early boneheads had been able to ride the wave of panic and make all the needed drastic changes, say 20 years ago, all the hardship created would have been for nothing. They would have inflicted more harm, than the mild climate change we experienced over the past 20 years. In the end, nothing changed to the degree stated by the fake news and propaganda panic. The atheists were most vulnerable to the induced panic, then and now. It is based on projection and lack of faith in fate.

Climate change is slower than larva and gives us plenty of time to get out of the way. It comes back to accepting one's fate, while adapting to change. This is how life has always done it.
 
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TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Firstly one must identify the problem. Just one at a time because solving them all with one solution is impossible.

Global climate change. The planet's climate has been in constant change since it's birth. This affects everything on the planet. Species adapt or go extinct.

How does any religious bible written before they knew the problem solve the problem?

I don't really understand your OP.

Could you rephrase your question?
 
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