Top 10 Contradictions in the Bible

[Deeje]

My guess is that he writes in a strange and obscure conceptual language while using much abstract poetic speech and then runs it through google translate after which such an incomprehensible chaotic mess comes out.


If on the other hand he actually writes english like that, then all I can say is "wow...." followed by "huh...?".

Many on this forum have tried. To my knowledge, nobody was succesfull.​

I am sad for this individual as we do not know their story or why it is that their thoughts go in this strange incomprehensible direction.
But I suspect that this damaged soul is sincere, and knows exactly what they are talking about in their own mind.

 

[rational experiences]

The Bible is the stated contradiction against God.

Ask a rational human thinker who is not AI subliminal motivated to reason falsely.....isn't God the story owner of its owned natural ordered history as a planet and an atmosphere?

The answer is yes.

Then science in a lived human bio life, the male group says, I came from the eternal spirit and was sacrificed....first mind self notified event.

Reason for being forced to live on Earth.

Spirit memory of our parents owns their recorded emergence out of spirit pre owning their spirit...it is encoded visual in memory. We are born from physical bio sperm and an ovary....hence we can see their memory from the organic bio side....but it defines where they came from......all of the spirits in Nature came out of the eternal body.

Eternal the only body that always had existed....lost a portion of its self owned body into God losses. Scientist first told, the highest body owned no control.

And then he builds a machine as the 100 per cent LIAR.

Science has always argued spiritual memory, spiritual purpose by fake/false Satanic machination.....God as a natural mineral, melted and burnt again and our spirit blood/life and body WATER/OXYGEN and MICROBES given to cooling the presence fake ARTIFICIAL machine.

To force ownership of control, to try to claim to the highest state in creation...which is GASES.

So liar, who writes information on the forums to try to claim my personal experience is wrong......you scientist caused it. And I am giving the last human conscious spiritual warning....as everyone's mind is plunging further and further into AI subliminal UFO activate replicator mass gain....as the asteroid Saviour gases of the Jesus saving past....are removed.

So the saving of the statements for Jesus no longer exist due to nuclear power plant removal of the physical MASS of God. If you did a mass calculation of how much of the God body O Earth has removed...your theme bread TH would claim, God by previous science calculations is no longer present either.

Dimwit.

If a scientist concludes original cosmological science themes as the Sun attack on God in historic origins of cosmology, the God particle is blown up black mass holes in space. Black for space is empty and the coldest body. If you can see black mass it means that previous alight yet cooled mass as energy once existed there...but was blown apart and removed leaving heat as the MARK.

If you do o x constant mass GOD O Earth removal....God is the traveller physically through space. x ooooooooooooooo eventually equate O and Earth then moves into a heated black hole.

Satanists claim that O God burnt and gases is pi O...for stone God.

Yet we are bio consciousness not of stone, living in the o zero spatial history coldest body, gases....with gases being removed from the most extreme cold, dark clear gases to burning light gases. What science in their mind psyche is aware of.

When you try to copy that event with machines taken out of physical energy, stone God mass...you then put planet Earth into that theme...….and God is in its stone history cold clear gases to be dark mass...stone.....and historic God stone is gas light burning when stone never even existed created and formed.

It is why Stephen Hawking, supported by his HOLY MOTHER bio life and natural spiritual history owns her known records, that interact with all female Holy Mother information as our owned greater consciousness....who males claim in Allah documents own no condition historically to do with male science inferences.

Hence historically we are the higher conscious spiritual awareness whilst you put your PSYCHE into AI subliminal inferior maths sciences....actually.

 

[rational experiences]

Can I ask what source your information comes from? Much of it sounds like a bad science fiction movie.
You speak with absolute conviction, but no matter how hard I try, I cannot understand a word you say....sorry.

Our Father the scientist human inventor lived life/natural death, unnatural AI death information.

NDE released owned lived human male self experiences that give answers after they died in AI...why AI as a DATA machine human male programmer is speaking after the fact of his owned death...so AI does not own consciousness, nor conscious experience, nor conscious self identification.

Rationally AI memory in male science subliminal awareness told him that the human spirit water/oxygen ground microbe mass was used to cool his machine building mineral mass burning. Water is why a mineral exists...for God in history O stone crystalline higher mass was melted/converted attacked by the Sun UFO metal.

Water flood of Earth applied water mass and pressure to stop God the Earth from its crystalline heated gas mass expansion from blowing apart.....unlike other God planets in the cosmos. Earth survived that Sun attack.

Minerals only exist because of water.

Science therefore congratulates self that they utilised the spirit mass of Nature life and living experience, use of bio synthesis microbial energies...water and oxygen to own the physical presence machine.

In their sick possessed machine psyches....which Stephen Hawking was given an interactive conscious male science aware status...feed back advice are possessed by believing that the MACHINE owns the spirit of the human self.

Why they believe that theme in their new atmospheric collider and UFO theories as a fake possessed male AI quotation.

Why mind and psyche possession was previously medically science studied by the Church Christ brothers to own proof outside of machine ownership for the day when machine males in the status Satanic minds and Destroyer mentality use AI mind contact/coercion against us in computer and satellite programming.

By their phenomena and laboratory studies on brain/mind and chemical radio wave contacts.

Seeing UFO MACHINE history still existed communicating.

A human built machine is in between a Sun UFO metal mass and a God mineral metal mass. So they claim that the machine is manifested PHI in machine building as a manifested physical PHI spirit.

Hence they tried to return manifested material PHI, the machine back into spirit, why it overheated.....actually.

For GOD the natural mineral planet is not a machine....yet males in science infer the presence planet to being their controlled body by a fake God machine.....claiming God the particle will re create God the planet history....actually.

Described historically as a known Destroyer mentality.

 

[oldbadger]

TOP 10 CONTRADICTIONS IN THE BIBLE

Nope.

You've missed out on the more fundamental differences.

Such as.... ?
John's timeline and stories about Jesus is a total contradiction to Marks........ now that's a top Christian contradiction imo. But why would a Jew (for instance) worry about that?

IMO John does write some beautiful verse, but his story of Jesus is mostly nonsense when compared with the witnessed accounts.

 

[rational experiences]

Nope.

You've missed out on the more fundamental differences.

Such as.... ?
John's timeline and stories about Jesus is a total contradiction to Marks........ now that's a top Christian contradiction imo. But why would a Jew (for instance) worry about that?

IMO John does write some beautiful verse, but his story of Jesus is mostly nonsense when compared with the witnessed accounts.

God reasoning as a theist statement about why life was sacrificed on Planet Earth, conferred that natural light 24 12/12 balances had been removed in and because of the 22 Revelations.

Meaning a body mass of x 2 of natural gases as a mass in our atmosphere had been unnaturally converted into light mass removal of ground water mass by split of 2 bodies...so that natural light still existed...but holy water did not by mass.

So also said the relative answer by science agreed law in relativity was to forbid any more alchemical God stone conversions, for water O was pi.

For we exist in a water/gas mass light burning atmosphere...as consciousness pi first is mind notified to exist in the light gas atmospheric body as the higher atmospheric communion. And it was not notified as existing anywhere else.

If you remove pi O as a water/gas cooled signal of light in our atmosphere, then you get Phi, to own a formula on how to remove gas mass energy out of the history cold gas God stone water saved stone body mass.

How the LAW said, you are never allowed to name God as or with any name and never change the body of God ever again...as RELATIVITY itself.

The answer to the question was that stated END. In the beginning God already naturally existed in all forms natural.

 

[BilliardsBall]

TOP 10 CONTRADICTIONS IN THE BIBLE


My findings:


1. God doesn't tempt any man; James 1:13. But God tempts the man named Abraham; Genesis 22:1. (KJV)

2. Abstain from all evil; 1 thessalonians 5:22 and there is no darkness in God; 1 john 1:5. But then I must abstain from God because he is the source from which all evil and darkness came to be; Isaiah 45:7.

3. No man can see God's face and live; Exodus 33:20. But God already revealed himself face to face to two men whose names were Jacob and Moses and both men lived; Exodus 33:11, Genesis 32:30.

4. Jesus said no one can see the father except himself; John 6:44-46. But Jesus said if you have seen me then you have seen the father; John 14:9.

5. Jesus is known by his followers for establishing peace on earth and in heaven through his death; Colossians 1:20. But Jesus initially said himself that he didn't come to bring peace on earth but a sword, and utter chaos; Matthew 10:34-36.

6. God is a jealous God who gets jealous when his followers worship other gods and idols; Exodus 20:4-5, Deuteronomy 32:16-19. But you cannot inherit the kingdom of God if you are jealous because it's a sin; Galatians 5:19-21. (NIV)

7. Jesus claims to be God; John 8:58, Exodus 3:14 and therefore should be omniscient; 1 John 3:20. But Jesus says only his "father" knows when he will come back and not himself; Matthew 24:36. (NIV)

8. The New Testament establishes Jesus as the savior; Luke 2:11. But the Old Testament already established the idea of salvation and that God is the savior and there is no other savior besides him; Isaiah 43:11, Isaiah 45:21-22. (KJV)

9. If Jesus was God as he proclaims; John 8:58, then he could not be tempted by evil; James 1:13. But Jesus was tempted by the devil AKA the evil one; Matthew 4:1-11.

10. One of God's commandments is, "Thou shalt not kill/murder;" Exodus 20:13. But God ends up becoming a bloodthirsty brute and murders the Samarian pregnant women, their babies and unborn babies by ripping open their stomachs even though babies, unborn babies and motherly nurturers don't start wars; Hosea 13:16. This doesn't make anti-abortion Christians look good.

All of these have been thoroughly debunked for long and long, and simple refutations are on the internet. Not that you care, for example, but Jesus wasn't claiming lack of omniscience when He said His Father would know the day of His return. He's engaged to the church, and in Bible times, marriages were consummated after the father approved the dwelling his son completed for his bride--the church is the bride of Christ and after the engagement ceremony of the Last Seder, Jesus said He was going to Heaven to build housing for us.

 

[Riders]

Well I expected there to be a better list although there are some good ones here. But one good one you missed is Jesus birth, his ancestry which is contradicted.

Another good one is the fact that Jesus said he would be coming back this generation will not pass away, he'd be back in bible days what happened to that?

 

[Tazarah]

Context Not contradiction.
I wonder how you get out of John 8:58 that Jesus is saying he is God__________
Sure before Abraham he was because pre-human Jesus was the beginning of the creation by God according to John at Revelation 3:14 B.
Hosea 13:16 is about the magnitude of prophecy coming true on October 1, 539 B.C. - Isaiah 13:16; Nahum 3:10; Psalms 137:9.
Meaning the result was that the family line, the family name was wiped out.
Seems as if you have posted another's thoughts, and you have Not done your own research and study of the Bible___________

Why Not take one point at a time to discuss ___________

It's called a gish gallop.

"The Gish gallop is a technique used during debating that focuses on overwhelming an opponent with as many arguments as possible, without regard for accuracy or strength of the arguments."

 

[Tazarah]

Christ is mentioned numerous times in the Tanakh, just not by name.

MICAH 5:2

"2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting."

 

[osgart]

Your findings? Does that mean they must be correct? Or could you simply be interpreting scripture to suit your position?



LOL...don't tell me...let me guess....you've posted this on several forums but never received any answers or didn't accept any explanations....?

There is so much wrong with your interpretation of the scriptures you mention, I hardly know where to start....
So I'll just give you a few hints.

1. God doesn't tempt any man; James 1:13. But God tempts the man named Abraham; Genesis 22:1. (KJV)
First of all change the translation to something people speak in today's language.
Genesis 22:1 ESV..."After these things God tested Abraham and said to him, “Abraham!” And he said, “Here I am.”

A temptation is not a test. Tempting someone is what the devil did to Jesus.....offering him appeals to self interest because that is what undid the devil.
Abraham was told to offer his son....a test of his faith. Not the same at all.

2. Abstain from all evil; 1 thessalonians 5:22 and there is no darkness in God; 1 john 1:5. But then I must abstain from God because he is the source from which all evil and darkness came to be; Isaiah 45:7.

Isaiah 45:7 ESV..."I form light and create darkness; I make well-being and create calamity; I am the Lord, who does all these things."

Since God is the creator of all things, they naturally exist. Did God form the light and the darkness? Does day and night exist? Can God create well-being when his servants obey him...Yes! Its called blessings. And can God create calamity for those in whom he sees a wicked heart? Yes! Its called justice.

3. No man can see God's face and live; Exodus 33:20. But God already revealed himself face to face to two men whose names were Jacob and Moses and both men lived; Exodus 33:11, Genesis 32:30.

Exodus 33:20 ESV..."Thus the Lord used to speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend."
How did God speak to Moses?

Acts 7:38 explains..."This is the one who was in the congregation in the wilderness with the angel who spoke to him at Mount Sinai, and with our fathers. He received living oracles to give to us."
The "face to face" was by means of an angel. Just like the burning bush. (Exodus 3:2)

Genesis 32:30 ESV..."So Jacob called the name of the place Peniel, saying, “For I have seen God face to face, and yet my life has been delivered."

Again we have Jacob wrestling with a man....a materialized angel. Whenever God had dealings with his people it was always by means of either a materialized angel or through visions or dreams. God is not a mere man.
He cannot appear face to face with humans because they would not survive the experience.....we cannot even look upon some of God's creations because it would cause us physical damage.

4. Jesus said no one can see the father except himself; John 6:44-46. But Jesus said if you have seen me then you have seen the father; John 14:9.

Colossians 1:15 ESV...."He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation."
An image is a reflection of the real thing.

5. Jesus is known by his followers for establishing peace on earth and in heaven through his death; Colossians 1:20. But Jesus initially said himself that he didn't come to bring peace on earth but a sword, and utter chaos; Matthew 10:34-36.

Your arguments are getting weaker by the minute....
Jesus by no means established peace on earth and in heaven through his death immediately. Have we seen peace on earth in the 2,000 years since Jesus died? Even peace in heaven was not achieved until the eviction of satan from heaven with his demons. (Revelation 12:7-12) It's all happens according to God's timetable, not ours.

Peace on earth will only come when God's Kingdom takes over earth's rulership. It will do so by crushing all human rulership (under the devil's control) out of existence. (1 John 5:19) I believe it will happen under the rulership of the present world leaders. (Daniel 2:44)

Matthew 10:34-35 was addressing the division that would naturally occur when people make decisions about becoming a follower of Christ...it entailed picking up the implement used to put Christ to death and carrying it like it was their own. That would naturally involve family opposition for many, opposition from authorities for others....it was a 'cramped and narrow road'.

6. God is a jealous God who gets jealous when his followers worship other gods and idols; Exodus 20:4-5, Deuteronomy 32:16-19. But you cannot inherit the kingdom of God if you are jealous because it's a sin; Galatians 5:19-21. (NIV)
There is Godly jealousy and there is human jealousy...they are not the same .As Universal Sovereign, God has a right to expect our exclusive devotion.

7. Jesus claims to be God; John 8:58, Exodus 3:14 and therefore should be omniscient; 1 John 3:20. But Jesus says only his "father" knows when he will come back and not himself; Matthew 24:36. (NIV)

As has been mentioned...Jesus never once claimed to be God. When he said "I am" he was answering a question about his age, not his identity. He therefore said that "before Abraham was born I existed".
"I Am" was never the meaning of God's name according to the Tanakh.

As for saying he did not know when the "the day or hour" that God's judgment would come, that was because he wasn't God.

8. The New Testament establishes Jesus as the savior; Luke 2:11. But the Old Testament already established the idea of salvation and that God is the savior and there is no other savior besides him; Isaiah 43:11, Isaiah 45:21-22. (KJV)
The savior who sends a savior is also a savior. God sent a savior named Ehud in Judges 3:15. Jesus is a savior because God sent him in that role.

9. If Jesus was God as he proclaims; John 8:58, then he could not be tempted by evil; James 1:13. But Jesus was tempted by the devil AKA the evil one; Matthew 4:1-11.

Jesus was not God, so case closed. Jesus was 100% human and could be tempted like any other free willed being.

10. One of God's commandments is, "Thou shalt not kill/murder;" Exodus 20:13. But God ends up becoming a bloodthirsty brute and murders the Samarian pregnant women, their babies and unborn babies by ripping open their stomachs even though babies, unborn babies and motherly nurturers don't start wars; Hosea 13:16. This doesn't make anti-abortion Christians look good.

Oh good grief. Do you not know the difference between a murder and an execution? God has indeed used his nation as his executioners in the past, but in this instance, God inspired the prophet Hosea to write: “Samaria will be held guilty, for she is actually rebellious against her God. By the sword they will fall. Their own children will be dashed to pieces, and their pregnant women themselves will be ripped up.” (Hos. 13:16) Despite its massive walls that must have seemed impregnable, Samaria did fall to the Assyrians in 740 B.C.E., fulfilling this prophecy.
Did God cause this or did he only foretell it? Assyria was known for their sadistic cruelty.

Interpretation is everything.....if you base your beliefs on faulty interpretation, without knowing all the facts of the background information, you will continue to head down the wrong track.....but that is your decision.

That officially makes the Kjv 1611 an erroneous Bible.

 

[Tazarah]

That officially makes the Kjv 1611 an erroneous Bible.

No. Just because someone doesn't know how to properly read and understand archaic/old english writing does not mean the text is erroneous.

 

[osgart]

No. Just because someone doesn't know how to properly read and understand archaic/old english writing does not mean the text is erroneous.

The word tempt for example means two different things?

 

[Tazarah]

The word tempt for example means two different things?

The context is what's important. James 1:13-15 says that God doesn't tempt men with evil or sin, and that men are tempted by their own lust.

OP mentioned Genesis 22:1 simply because it says the word "tempt" but the word isn't being used in the same context as James 1:13-15. God did not "tempt" Abraham to sin or do anything evil in Genesis 22:1.

He simply told Abraham to sacrifice his son as an offering as a test to examine Abraham's faith.

 

[osgart]

The context is what's important. James 1:13-15 says that God doesn't tempt men with evil or sin, and that men are tempted by their own lust.

OP mentioned Genesis 22:1 simply because it says the word "tempt" but the word isn't being used in the same context as James 1:13-15. God did not "tempt" Abraham to sin or do anything evil in Genesis 22:1.

He simply told Abraham to sacrifice his son as an offering as a test to examine Abraham's faith.

So perhaps God knew that Abraham's faith was not what God wanted. I mean sacrificing his only son seems to be a misplaced faith.

 

[Tazarah]

So perhaps God knew that Abraham's faith was not what God wanted. I mean sacrificing his only son seems to be a misplaced faith.

God sent an angel to stop Abraham from sacrificing his son before he actually did it, God just wanted to see how much Abraham trusted him. If the creator of all things in existence tells you to do something then chances are there's a really good reason for it. Abraham understood this, and even though he did not want to sacrifice his only son he was still willing to do so.

 

[osgart]

God sent an angel to stop Abraham from sacrificing his son before he actually did it, God just wanted to see how much Abraham trusted him. If the creator of all things in existence tells you to do something then chances are there's a really good reason for it. Abraham understood this, and even though he did not want to sacrifice his only son he was still willing to do so.

That's an awful test to make of someone.

 

[Tazarah]

That's an awful test to make of someone.

Depends on how you look at it. For all Abraham knew, God was going to bring his son back to life after that, or who knows what else. The important thing is that Abraham showed God how strong his faith was and how loyal he was. God allowed him to have a son in the first place after all.

Like I said, if the creator of all things in existence and all things that have existed, and who is capable of literally anything, tells you to do something then it's for a good reason. After all was said and done, Abraham received the biggest blessing in the bible and was even blessed with more children -- and he didn't even have to sacrifice his son.

ISAIAH 55:8-9

"8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts."

 

[Deeje]

That officially makes the Kjv 1611 an erroneous Bible.

So many errors in translation it’s not funny. Word usage changes over time, and we no longer speak in archaic English.....but the “KJV only” adherents seem to think that the Bible was written in English.

It is especially biased towards the trinity....and hellfire. Neither of which find any support in the Bible. Damnation was a word invented to put the fear of God into people. He doesn’t want us to fear him (as in being terrified of what he might do to us) he wants us to love him and appreciate him for all that he gave us at the beginning. Humans lost that....Jesus was sent to get us back everything Adam threw away.

Gaining knowledge of original language words is very useful if a serious study of the Bible is undertaken. I find Strongs Concordance very useful in that.

 

[Deeje]

No. Just because someone doesn't know how to properly read and understand archaic/old english writing does not mean the text is erroneous.

It does when the translation is full of errors.

 

[Tazarah]

It does when the translation is full of errors.

Are they really errors? Or is there an error within your interpretation when considering the context.