Top Iranian General Killed in Airstrike

[Aupmanyav]

Yes. It does. They obligate us to follow American and western cultures by making their human rights.

That is why India has not signed the UN Declaration of Human Rights. You have your ways, we have ours.

Refusing to trade with someone is not a cultural imposition.

That is a bit funny. Not trading with Iran and not allowing others to trade with Iran, trying to box them and others (India should not buy oil from Iran or otherwise ..). This is bullying. Does not work with NK too.

You said, "Do you think he (i.e., Soleymani) is now up in Muslim heaven with 7 (or 72 ) virgins and young boys to attend to his needs?" What vesre says this?

Probably he is. Who knows the bounties of Allah? Just sayin (I am a strong atheist).

 

[mojtaba]

Tehran is so crowdy for funaral of Soleimany. There are a huge crowd here.

I am trapted in metro station!

May God bless him.

 

[Revoltingest]

That is a bit funny. Not trading with Iran and not allowing others to trade with Iran, trying to box them and others (India should not buy oil from Iran or otherwise ..). This is bullying. Does not work with NK too.

And our oil embargo against Japan really went south around 1940.

 

[oldbadger]

Did I suggest such a thing?

You've been knocking a dress code on a thread which is focused upon the United States carrying out the blowing up of an Iranian leader in Iraq without warning and right beside a foreign airport.

Some American voters are possibly loving this situation but the rest, along with most of the whole world have got other ideas about President Trump.

His new threats show me beyond any doubt that he's really really wanting this situation to escalate. My opinion of President Trump cannot be shown on a forum, any forum.

 

[oldbadger]

And our oil embargo against Japan really went south around 1940.

Hello Revolting! And it's a happy good morining to you from the dingiest corner of Kent, UK.

So......Now..... how are your feelings about President Barrack Obama's 8 year's in office ..... these days?

On a scale of 1-10, 1 being 'murdering warmonger' and 10 being 'Top International Diplomat' how are you marking President Obama these days? Eh?

 

[Revoltingest]

Hello Revolting! And it's a happy good morining to you from the dingiest corner of Kent, UK.

So......Now..... how are your feelings about President Barrack Obama's 8 year's in office ..... these days?

The same (mixed).

On a scale of 1-10, 1 being 'murdering warmonger' and 10 being 'Top International Diplomat' how are you marking President Obama these days? Eh?

In the lower range.

 

[Aupmanyav]

What Trump probably has achieved is US exit from Iraq and a greater Shia nation, more US haters.

 

[oldbadger]

The same (mixed).

In the lower range.

Give it another week.
That could make quite a difference..... methinks.

 

[Wandering Monk]

You've been knocking a dress code on a thread which is focused upon the United States carrying out the blowing up of an Iranian leader in Iraq without warning and right beside a foreign airport.

What the **** does this have to do with starting a war on Iran? I was responding to another poster's attempt to portray Iran as an enlightened nation.

 

[Revoltingest]

Give it another week.
That could make quite a difference..... methinks.

All things which occur affect evaluation.
It's why when people ask me about Trump's
record, my answers typically suffix "so far".
You agree it should be so?

 

[ecco]

It is obvious that Iranian are Shia, and not Sunni.

It's obvious to you, but I don't know what you are, and apparently you don't want to tell us. You say you are in Iran. I am surprised at how easily you are allowed to communicate with Westerners.

You said, "Do you think he (i.e., Soleymani) is now up in Muslim heaven with 7 (or 72 ) virgins and young boys to attend to his needs?"
What vesre says this?

My emphases...

Virgins? What virgins?

What of the rewards in paradise? The Islamic paradise is described in great sensual detail in the Koran and the Traditions; for instance, Koran sura 56 verses 12 -40 ; sura 55 verses 54-56 ; sura 76 verses 12-22. I shall quote the celebrated Penguin translation by NJ Dawood of sura 56 verses 12- 39: "They shall recline on jewelled couches face to face, and there shall wait on them immortal youths with bowls and ewers and a cup of purest wine (that will neither pain their heads nor take away their reason); with fruits of their own choice and flesh of fowls that they relish. And theirs shall be the dark-eyed houris, chaste as hidden pearls: a guerdon for their deeds... We created the houris and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand..."

One should note that most translations, even those by Muslims themselves such as A Yusuf Ali, and the British Muslim Marmaduke Pickthall, translate the Arabic (plural) word Abkarun as virgins, as do well-known lexicons such the one by John Penrice. I emphasise this fact since many pudic and embarrassed Muslims claim there has been a mistranslation, that "virgins" should be replaced by "angels". In sura 55 verses 72-74, Dawood translates the Arabic word " hur " as "virgins", and the context makes clear that virgin is the appropriate translation: "Dark-eyed virgins sheltered in their tents (which of your Lord's blessings would you deny?) whom neither man nor jinnee will have touched before." The word hur occurs four times in the Koran and is usually translated as a "maiden with dark eyes".

Two points need to be noted. First, there is no mention anywhere in the Koran of the actual number of virgins available in paradise, and second, the dark-eyed damsels are available for all Muslims, not just martyrs. It is in the Islamic Traditions that we find the 72 virgins in heaven specified: in a Hadith (Islamic Tradition) collected by Al-Tirmidhi (died 892 CE [common era*]) in the Book of Sunan (volume IV, chapters on The Features of Paradise as described by the Messenger of Allah [Prophet Muhammad], chapter 21, About the Smallest Reward for the People of Paradise, (Hadith 2687). The same hadith is also quoted by Ibn Kathir (died 1373 CE ) in his Koranic commentary (Tafsir) of Surah Al-Rahman (55), verse 72: "The Prophet Muhammad was heard saying: 'The smallest reward for the people of paradise is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the distance from Al-Jabiyyah [a Damascus suburb] to Sana'a [Yemen]'."

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What are those immortal youths referring to? Young boys? What services do these young boys provide to the martyrs? It all sounds very gay.

I guess you pick and choose what to believe and what to dismiss.

 

[Altfish]

This is what the Germans think ...

 

[ecco]

So you wouldn't endorse assassination under any circumstance?

I would not. International law does not.

Would you endorse the assassinations of Trump or Pence? Would you endorse the assassination of The Whistleblower? Do you endorse the assassination of Jeffery Epstein?

You don't have to virtue signal, let it go, set it down like a burdensome sack and free yourself.

If the above makes sense to you, good. To me, it is incoherent.

 

[Revoltingest]

What the **** does this have to do with starting a war on Iran? I was responding to another poster's attempt to portray Iran as an enlightened nation.

I saw his attempt more as a correction, ie,
they're not as bad as portrayed in our media.

As we see from some on RF, waging war is about more than the
ostensible reasons....they also recite a litany of dislikes. Of course,
the latter don't justify war, but they validate the desire for war.

 

[Subduction Zone]

This is what the Germans think ...

It looks fairly accurate. One must have both the means and the mentality to threaten world peace.

 

[ecco]

Uh-huh. Pretty happy with my initial point, actually. I suggest it is you that fails to understand the amount of indoctrination you recieve. That's OK, you can't help it. It's one of those "fish have no word for water" type things.

One thing I clearly know, I was not religiously indoctrinated/brainwashed from infancy throughout childhood and adolescence.


There are some people who consider a few hours of biology in high school to be brainwashing into believing in evolution.
There are some people who consider watching documentaries about nature to be brainwashing into believing in evolution.

Perhaps you can give some examples of the type and "amount of indoctrination recieve".

 

[Stanyon]

Do you endorse the assassination of Jeffery Epstein?
.

It has been claimed that Russian trolls floated the conspiracy theory that Epstein was murdered, who do you think might have an interest in spreading that conspiracy theory?

Another conspiracy theory to brew....

 

[Stanyon]

I would not. International law does not.

Yet many governments still do it in the open or behind closed doors.

 

[ecco]

That is why India has not signed the UN Declaration of Human Rights. You have your ways, we have ours.

Yep. You sure do. Who gives a **** about human rights anyway?

I guess you must be proud.

 

[ecco]

This is what the Germans think ...

One picture is worth a thousand words.