Traditional Marriage, Why It Matters, All Churches, Christians, Islam and Jews only please?

[Nakosis]

Normran: Hi leibowde84, no I do not think that religion should be kept out of it.

No reason the government should cater to any particular religion. There folks from all "walks" of life, differing in beliefs in the US. So why discriminate according to religious beliefs?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Violence against minorities is prohibited, however imperfectly, but the question of discriminatory treatment is largely determined by statutory bans on discriminatory treatment in employment, housing and public accommodations. But that is a step beyond what I mean by tolerance, and what it meant historically. Thankfully, we have progressed since the concept was first introduced.

Aggression comes in more forms than just violence. Harassment, for example, is a form of aggression, and something the law tends to be rather iffy about.

 

[Norman]

No reason the government should cater to any particular religion. There folks from all "walks" of life, differing in beliefs in the US. So why discriminate according to religious beliefs?

Norman: Hi Nakosis, I don't see a civil marriage being discriminated against by Religion. It is about morality, the same sex marriage movement has already been given judicial edict. So, you should be happy that this is so.

 

[Nakosis]

Norman: Hi Nakosis, I don't see a civil marriage being discriminated against by Religion. It is about morality, the same sex marriage movement has already been given judicial edict. So, you should be happy that this is so.

I don't personally care if religions discriminate with regard to marriage. I just don't think religion should have an influence in our legal system. So religion should be kept out of our legal system. I just don't see a need for religious influence. I'd keep Satanism out as much as Mormonism or Islam. Just in an effort to be fair and equitable.

 

[Norman]

I don't personally care if religions discriminate with regard to marriage. I just don't think religion should have an influence in our legal system. So religion should be kept out of our legal system. I just don't see a need for religious influence. I'd keep Satanism out as much as Mormonism or Islam. Just in an effort to be fair and equitable.

Norman: Hi Nakosis, why should same sex marriage belong in judicial edict?

 

[Norman]

what I cannot understand is why religious folk are so concerned with homosexuality and what homosexuals do, be it legal or sexual. Don't you people have more important things to worry about like adultery, divorce, murder, dishonesty, hypocrisy, the state of the planet etc?

Norman: Hi dgirl1986, what country do you reside in?

 

[Norman]

Well I am not the one who's incapable to understand a simple Wikipedia article.

Norman: That quote is from one of my leader's off of my Church website. He used to be a lawyer, It is not a Wikipedia article.

 

[fantome profane]

Norman: Question to you Shadow Wolf, do you have morals? If you are married and have children, don't you teach them morals? Religious or not religious, morals are morals. Do you know what morals are?

I know this is not directed at me, but I am going to take a shot at it anyway.

One of the most central and nearly universal principles of morality is to do unto others as you would have them do unto you, or what is hateful to you do not do unto another. That is a very important moral principle.

I don't think at those who oppose same sex marriage would want other people to be allowed to interfer with their own marriages or personal lives. I don't think those who oppose same sex marriage would want to be forced to live according to the doctrines of somebody else's religion. It seems pretty clear to me that they are doing something unto others that they would not want done unto them. And that is immoral.

 

[McBell]

I know this is not directed at me, but I am going to take a shot at it anyway.

One of the most central and nearly universal principles of morality is to do unto others as you would have them do unto you, or what is hateful to you do not do unto another. That is a very important moral principle.

I don't think at those who oppose same sex marriage would want other people to be allowed to interfer with their own marriages or personal lives. I don't think those who oppose same sex marriage would want to be forced to live according to the doctrines of somebody else's religion. It seems pretty clear to me that they are doing something unto others that they would not want done unto them. And that is immoral.

Except it is only immoral if you do not have god on your side.
If god is on your side, then anything you do is moral simply because god is on your side and god cannot be immoral.

 

[McBell]

Norman: Hi Nakosis, why should same sex marriage belong in judicial edict?

Because homophobic areas of the country have illegally banned same sex marriage.

 

[muichimotsu]

We have discussed all of that baloney before.

Real Religious Freedom - is for the rest of us not to be forced under your archaic Bronze Age laws.

You have a right to not like Gay marriage, - but you DO NOT have a right to dictate that to the rest of us whom believe in human rights.

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It's pretty evident he's just copypasting his responses now, since he doesn't apparently want to construct individual responses, but just parrot his dogmatic response in a cookie cutter form so it's easier.

 

[Norman]

Because homophobic areas of the country have illegally banned same sex marriage.

Norman: I don't think it was done illegally, since when did same sex marriage become a new human right? You call others including myself homophobic, isn't that term getting worn out?

 

[Muffled]

Do you think marriage is only for procreation?

I believe so. The idea of marriage meaning the two becomes one flesh indicates to me that it happens in children that a couple becomes one flesh.

 

[Muffled]

That reminds me of how poorly my wife and I communicate. It took a third party to ask when we were getting married. I said she hasn't said yes yet and she said what do I have to do hit you over the head?

 

[Muffled]

Norman agrees with this statement "the eternal perspective of the restored gospel."

I believe there is no such thing and the claim is similar to Roman Catholics claiming that their posotion is the only true position.

 

[metis]

Norman agrees with this statement "the eternal perspective of the restored gospel."

I believe there is no such thing and the claim is similar to Roman Catholics claiming that their posotion is the only true position.

Pretty much all religions do that and not just the RCC.

 

[Muffled]

Pretty much all religions do that and not just the RCC.

Perhaps but I believe the Southern Baptists will just say they have their position and everyone else can go to Hell, lol.

 

[metis]

Perhaps but I believe the Southern Baptists will just say they have their position and everyone else can go to Hell, lol.

Yep, I've been told so many times that I'm going to hell that I'm sorta looking forward to the trip.

 

[Nakosis]

Norman: Hi Nakosis, why should same sex marriage belong in judicial edict?

Personally I don't think marriage shouldn't be a legal matter at all heterosexual or homosexual. It's a religious thing. People can be free to come together through any religious union they feel appropriate through their various beliefs.

Legally it's just a contract between people. An agreement which is legally binding and has some legal benefits.This can be done regardless of any religious or non religious affiliation.

However for whatever reason, our government has chosen to recognize marriage as a legal contract. In doing so, since our government is secular, our laws should be secular. That means not influenced in preference of any particular religion.

 

[muichimotsu]

Norman: I don't think it was done illegally, since when did same sex marriage become a new human right? You call others including myself homophobic, isn't that term getting worn out?

Marriage is a civil right under the constitutional penumbra of the right to privacy; pretty sure that's been a Supreme Court decision and precedent for a while

I like heteronormative: it's more accurate, since homophobic in the Greek would entail fear of that which is the same, not that which is different