Of course! If all things were made by Him, then the nasty thing that causes cancer was too. I don't believe it was.
I think the scriptures that you can cite just bring to the fore that Christ is possible and that God exists close to the creation.
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I think the scriptures that you can cite just bring to the fore that Christ is possible and that God exists close to the creation.
Yes. I believe that. If there was no son of God there would have been no life because we need him.
but does god's creation choose to allow god to exist close, or manifest within itself?
Life can't be God. Life is bad. But, not all of it is bad. Without God's promise of a son, there would have been no life. I do not know if there would have been rocks. Do you?
if there was no creation there would be no son, son of man refers to all of mankind. sons of god refer to all beings.
Malachi 2:10
Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?
Matthew 6:9
After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
What is "god creation"?
OK. I do not disagree with that.
I don't believe that unless you are calling creation God's son.
Is all of creation God's son? Maybe.
That is profound. I don't do profound.
Creation to me means the universe and all that is in it including those spirits that bother people.
I trust that God exists independent of all that. And, I assume God's son is the reason for the universe so the thought of a son always existed with God even before anything else.
I trust that God exists independent of all that. And, I assume God's son is the reason for the universe so the thought of a son always existed with God even before anything else.
offspring?
Desert Snake
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He said 'baptize the nations', ,,
Once the nations are baptized, if you are part of that 'nation', ie in religious adherence, the church baptism, is symbolic. You can't get something that you already have.
The baptism by Jesus, isn't the same, as church baptism. This is why it is noted that they are different baptisms.
The church baptism can have by default the same affect, when someone is converting, or just becoming a Believer. This happens because the person , at the time of the church baptism, is accepting Jesus, not because, of the church baptism.
There is no 'magic' baptism, in Jesus adherence.
allfoak
Alchemist
No and no
God is not created and God has no form.
i understand that the person is baptized with fire, or the holy spirit. the point is that some say the trinity is false; when jesus didn't use the exact word he listed the three as making up ONE whole.
immersion in the name of the three implies ONEness of God in all, or god's omnipresence.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
The directive being to baptize the nations. If you are of one of the 'nations', ie religious belief, then the personal baptism is purely symbolic, and optional.
Can't get something, you already have.
So, the theological importance here, is directed at the nations, not a personal baptism.
Oviously, if someone is converting, or just a new believer, the baptism is at least a replicate of a nation baptism, a personal one.
i didn't state that god was a form. i'm asking if God is All in all? is God alpha and omega?
from the kybalion - the trinity
For the purpose of convenience of thought and study, the Hermetic Philosophy considers that the Universe may be divided into three great classes of phenomena, known as the Three Great Planes, namely:
1. The Great Physical Plane.
2. The Great Mental Plane.
3. The Great Spiritual Plane.
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the name was known in all nations.
the All in all was known from egyptian antiquities. it was made known to Moses from exodus 3:14. long before this, came from hermes/melchizedek
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Not getting that inference. That doesn't say 'all in all'.