That very important verse for trinity doctrine was added to later manuscripts and not found in the older scripts.
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Shemot - Exodus - Chapter 3 (Parshah Shemot)
egyptian nuk pu nuk
chaldean ahea ashur ahea
zoroastrian ahmi yat ahmi
hindu tat tvam asi
buddhist neti, neti
hermeticism All in all
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doesn't matter. the trinity is found in the first two verses of genesis.
god
spirit
water
these three parts were not created
exchemist
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Oh yes, thanks very much. At the very end, after the Resurrection.
exchemist
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cock.
Ibni Abbas
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I found the analogy to answer this question :
You place Al 'Iisa AS as though He AS is in the place of Al Muusa AS , but still you cannot put Al 'Iisa AS in the position before Al Muusa AS .
You place Al 'Iisa AS as though He AS is in the place of Al Muusa AS , but still you cannot put Al 'Iisa AS in the position before Al Muusa AS .
WalterTrull
Godfella
Not nice
WalterTrull
Godfella
Yeah. I always thought that.
exchemist
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The cock crowed. What is this "rooster" rubbish?
WalterTrull
Godfella
I think Edward was just catering to our delicate sensibilities.
paarsurrey
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Trinity is one of the back-bone creeds of the Christianity. I believe, if Jesus did not name it, the Church and Christians have no authority from Jesus to invent things themselves after him and blame Jesus for that.
Other are welcome to differ with me with reasons and arguments, if any.
Regards
syo
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eternal god creates us. that's all, actually.
WalterTrull
Godfella
syo
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the Trinity works thus
father creates
son is the medium between father and the creations
holy spirit animates.
the trinity is not created, it only creates. i strongly believe in the nicene creed.
WalterTrull
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TrueBeliever37
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I believe the Trinity is a false teaching. I would be very interested in the source where you found this information.
A Collection of Evidence Against the Traditional Wording of Matthew 28:19
From the article there are many many more sources than the following.
Edmund Schlink, The Doctrine of Baptism, page 28:
"The baptismal command in its Matthew 28:19 form can not be the historical origin of Christian baptism. At the very least, it must be assumed that the text has been transmitted in a form expanded by the [Catholic] church."
Tyndale New Testament Commentaries, I, 275:
It is often affirmed that the words in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost are not the ipsissima verba [exact words] of Jesus, but..a later liturgical addition."
Wilhelm Bousset, Kyrios Christianity, page 295:
"The testimony for the wide distribution of the simple baptismal formula [in the Name of Jesus] down into the second century is so overwhelming that even in Matthew 28:19, the Trinitarian formula was later inserted."
The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263:
"The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century."
syo
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the creation is feminine. the creator is male and the creation feminine. the church is feminine. virgin mary is feminine. if it wasn't for virgin mary, jesus wouldn't have walked on earth. god needed a very pure creature to be the mother of christ. the only person that fullfilled the request was mary. she was the purest of the pure, and because of her, god could send his only son to us. and finally, son/jesus has also a female quality ''Hagia Sophia'' the wisdom of god, which is female. female wisdom of god connects the god with the creation.
yes, i have heard that she was the immaculate conception too; which would make sense. if adam was two divided then there are two principles, the masculine and the feminine. mary would be eve to jesus' being adam. motherfather
1 Corinthians 15:45
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.