Trump Administration and the Press

[Kemosloby]

So, the examples I referred to, you just ignore them? Or do you have an explanation as to why you don't consider them arrogant. They pretty much meet the definition of arrogant.

And, when did Obama ever say anything arrogant?

Arrogant means too much self importance. Trump says judge me on what I get done, and shows confidence that he can get it done, and is working hard. Obama didn't do much, good at least, in 8 years and seems to think he did. Talks like his word is good as gold, but his words are either twisted or hollow because Isis kept growing and our country didn't get noticeably better. Played a
lot of golf, took vacations, traveled like he just won the lottery...arrogance, self important.

 

[Nietzsche]

Arrogant means too much self importance./QUOTE]
Every other word out of Trump's sewage pipe of a mouth is about how "amazing", "great", "tremendous", "bigly" or "wonderful" he or what he's done, is.

 

[leibowde84]

Arrogant means too much self importance. Trump says judge me on what I get done, and shows confidence that he can get it done, and is working hard. Obama didn't do much, good at least, in 8 years and seems to think he did. Talks like his word is good as gold, but his words are either twisted or hollow because Isis kept growing and our country didn't get noticeably better. Played a
lot of golf, took vacations, traveled like he just won the lottery...arrogance, self important.

Wait, ISIS shrunk significantly during that time. And, Obama did do a lot of good work. But, that is beyond my point, as I was talking about Trump, not Obama. It seems like anytime someone tries to defend Trump, they immediately point to Obama. Let's stay on topic.

When Trump says that he is the best at something, or that no one knows a topic better than he does, or speaks about his own speech as being the best inauguration speech of all time, or when he says that no one can be more presidential than him except for "possibly Abraham Lincoln", that is literally the definition of arrogance. Confidence would be something like "I am confident in my abilities and I believe that my plan will work". Arrogance is making a claim like "no one in the world is better at this than me". It is arrogance because there is no way that anyone can make an honest claim that they are the best in the world at something without any kind of reasoning behind it. That is why Trump's statements are dishonest as well.

 

[leibowde84]

Arrogant means too much self importance. Trump says judge me on what I get done, and shows confidence that he can get it done, and is working hard. Obama didn't do much, good at least, in 8 years and seems to think he did. Talks like his word is good as gold, but his words are either twisted or hollow because Isis kept growing and our country didn't get noticeably better. Played a
lot of golf, took vacations, traveled like he just won the lottery...arrogance, self important.

Pretty much every statement that Trump has made expresses his unreasonable and unsupported "self-importance". Can you name any time when Obama specifically stated that he was personally the "best" at something?

 

[Kemosloby]

Pretty much every statement that Trump has made expresses his unreasonable and unsupported "self-importance". Can you name any time when Obama specifically stated that he was personally the "best" at something?

Didn't Obama campaign as "Hope" which was sickeningly comparing himself to the Messiah, Add on those circle things the Catholics put behind his head and you can't get more arrogant than that.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Morning!

One thing that has me a bit on edge over the last few days is Trump's continued insistence that he is at war with the media. I am a bit concerned because I do not want his disdain to turn into censorship. Curious of what other people think of the topic.

The media had a large hand in creating the environment and society which allowed someone like Trump to be elected. If they go to war, I just hope they destroy each other - and good riddens to them both.

 

[habiru]

Didn't Obama campaign as "Hope" which was sickeningly comparing himself to the Messiah, Add on those circle things the Catholics put behind his head and you can't get more arrogant than that.

They all believes that they are gods...

 

[Deidre]

I believe the media is overdue to be put in it's place. If Trump can do it that would be interesting to see.

Agree, kind of tired of opinions being considered facts, by most journalists.

 

[leibowde84]

Didn't Obama campaign as "Hope" which was sickeningly comparing himself to the Messiah, Add on those circle things the Catholics put behind his head and you can't get more arrogant than that.

1. the HOPE campaign had nothing to do with Jesus. Obama's campaign did not assign that comparison. That was done by others over which Obama had no control.
2. The "circle things" were, again, not added by Obama or his staff. So, it is ridiculous to blame him for that.

Any examples that Obama was actually responsible for saying himself? Or, can you only point to things that he had no control over?

 

[Kemosloby]

1. the HOPE campaign had nothing to do with Jesus. Obama's campaign did not assign that comparison. That was done by others over which Obama had no control.
2. The "circle things" were, again, not added by Obama or his staff. So, it is ridiculous to blame him for that.

Any examples that Obama was actually responsible for saying himself? Or, can you only point to things that he had no control over?

I don't know, what did Obama do by himself? After they told him how to sign his inauguration papers I sort of wondered if he could do anything. I really couldn't stand his voice enough to listen to much of it the past 8 years, just the pure arrogance in his voice turned me off.

 

[leibowde84]

I don't know, what did Obama do by himself? After they told him how to sign his inauguration papers I sort of wondered if he could do anything. I really couldn't stand his voice enough to listen to much of it the past 8 years, just the pure arrogance in his voice turned me off.

"The pure arrogance of his voice"? What does that mean? Are you complaining that you didn't like what his voice sounded like? Because, he can't really control that.

 

[Kemosloby]

"The pure arrogance of his voice"? What does that mean? Are you complaining that you didn't like what his voice sounded like? Because, he can't really control that.

Well it's like Obama went around apologizing for America, as if he was better than America. Doesn't that bother you?

 

[tytlyf]

Well it's like Obama went around apologizing for America, as if he was better than America. Doesn't that bother you?

I hear that RW media talking point all the time, I've yet to see proof. Do you have it?

 

[Kemosloby]

I hear that RW media talking point all the time, I've yet to see proof. Do you have it?

A google search turns up this interesting ariticle, and after hearing Obama a few times I am thoroughly convinced it is true.

Barack Obama's Top 10 Apologies: How the President Has Humiliated a Superpower

 

[Underhill]

I believe the media is overdue to be put in it's place. If Trump can do it that would be interesting to see.

That is not the job of the government.

I have been in favor of reenacting the fairness doctrine and applying it across the board to cable networks too. But for some reason republicans were dead set against until recently... go figure.

 

[tytlyf]

A google search turns up this interesting ariticle, and after hearing Obama a few times I am thoroughly convinced it is true.

Barack Obama's Top 10 Apologies: How the President Has Humiliated a Superpower

I'll look at it, but your source is off to a bad start. The Heritage foundation isn't credible. Let's see what I find.

I read through what Heritage listed, I didn't see where Obama said "America apologizes" for anything. Maybe if you want to spin it that way.

 

[leibowde84]

Well it's like Obama went around apologizing for America, as if he was better than America. Doesn't that bother you?

I don't agree that he acted as if he was better than America. Can you point to a specific example of Obama apologizing for America so I can understand what you are talking about?

 

[Callisto]

Didn't Obama campaign as "Hope" which was sickeningly comparing himself to the Messiah, Add on those circle things the Catholics put behind his head and you can't get more arrogant than that.

Wait, how is encouraging hope rather than despair with the very plainly stated slogan, "Yes WE Can," translate in your mind as Obama proclaiming himself to be a messiah?

 

[Kemosloby]

Wait, how is encouraging hope rather than despair with the very plainly stated slogan, "Yes WE Can," translate in your mind as Obama proclaiming himself to be a messiah?

They put the circle thing behind his head. And we know Obama was no hope at all, with an open ended statement Yes we can. but Yes we can what? Obviously Obama was from the Father of lies. Trump though keeps it real.

 

[Kemosloby]

I don't agree that he acted as if he was better than America. Can you point to a specific example of Obama apologizing for America so I can understand what you are talking about?

Look at the link in post 115 or google Obama apology tour.