Trump Administration and the Press

[Jeremiahcp]

Better that it filters through an elected official than Ted Turner.


It depends how Trump goes about it. The government has a duty to bust up monopolies. So if Ted Turner or a handful of media moguls control all the media they need to be broken up. Or they are a threat to our freedom with their ability to manipulate public opinion.

"Better that it filters through an elected official"

And in the history books they will write, "America was once a free nation...."

 

[Kemosloby]

"Better that it filters through an elected official"

And in the history books they will write, "America was once a free nation...."

I meant to delete that, we don't want it filtering through anyone. But we don't want our country subverted by people who own the media.

 

[Scuba Pete]

Do you have a video clip of Trump lying?

Did you type this with a straight face? I heard him tell us lie after lie during the campaign and read them through his Twitter feed as well. Here are just ten from his Tweets as well as public statements:

1. "The media ... sort of made it sound like I had a feud with the intelligence community."
2. "Americans don't "care at all" about Donald Trump's tax returns."
3. "Activities by foreign governments had "absolutely no effect on the outcome of this election."
4. ]"If Russia, or some other entity, was hacking, why did the White House wait so long to act? Why did they only complain after Hillary lost?"
5. "We had a massive landslide victory, as you know, in the Electoral College."
6. Said there was "serious voter fraud" in Virginia, California and New Hampshire.
7. "there are probably 2 million, it could be even 3 million criminal immigrants in the country illegally."
8. ]"The @nytimes sent a letter to their subscribers apologizing for their BAD coverage of me."
9. ]"Twitter, Google and Facebook are burying the FBI criminal investigation of Clinton. Very dishonest media!"
10. ]"Wikileaks also shows how John Podesta rigged the polls by oversampling Democrats, a voter suppression technique."

This is less than 1% of the lies this man has told us just to get elected. Now he's lying and spinning through his Press Secretary. The man hates facts because they disagree with him consistently. He's a fraud. A huckster. A con artist. Anyone relying on him for the truth should have to wear "G" for gullible on their shirt.

 

[tytlyf]

No, we do not need, want, or deserve government control of our media.

However, I look at it this way.
The national media appeared to be solidly behind Hillary and solidly against President Trump. This is not the journalistic purity that should be expected from reputable news sources.

Well, if you didn't want govt control of media, you shouldn't have voted for Trump. He's a dictator and even acted like one prior to the election. Plenty of signs.
THe national media is composed of journalists and opinion heads. You shouldn't base the credibility of a news organization based on their opinion. People watch news for facts.
Most of America was against Trump, even plenty of conservative outlets. But you like them.
Bias is only opinion. Journalistic organizations report facts and evidence. If they should make a mistake, they will apologize and correct it. Fox doesn't do this, they keep their viewers in the dark to the facts/evidence. I'm glad to see my prediction of Fox and RW media falling apart after the election is happening.
Google is also a great fact checking resource.

 

[Toten]

I don't think it's sad. It's a reality that we need to acknowledge so that we can have more productive collective conversations about information, knowledge, facts, etc...

Not understanding this great truth is what makes it possible for Conservatives to belittle Liberal news outlets and for Liberals to belittle conservative news outlets, never understanding that it's through the dissent from both sides that truth is eventually discerned.

Without one, the other is never held accountable. And that's what's wrong with what Trump's team is doing.

There is no such thing as an unbiased source.

There doesn't need to be "conservative outlets vs. liberal news outlets" in the mainstream narrative. If the ONLY sources one can depend on are significantly biased, then something is definitely wrong.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

So he shoots from the hip when he's speaking, He's not launching the space shuttle and he's not on trial. I don't see the problem unless you can show a clip where Trump is being boastful and arrogant about it.

I'm not a gun person, so correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the metaphor of "shooting from the hip" imply that he's deliberately sacrificing accuracy for the sake of speed?

 

[Notanumber]

It has been reported on British radio that the Whitehouse were referring to the total number of people that watched by whatever means, not just those that attended.

Obama had a lot more supporters that lived within a reasonable distance of Washington and were wealthy enough to travel anyway.

Whereas DT supporters tend to live much further away and cannot afford to travel great distances.

 

[tytlyf]

It has been reported on British radio that the Whitehouse were referring to the total number of people that watched by whatever means, not just those that attended.

Obama had a lot more supporters that lived within a reasonable distance of Washington and were wealthy enough to travel anyway.

Whereas DT supporters tend to live much further away and cannot afford to travel great distances.

That's called more lying and spin. If that were true, then he would have said it prior to today. The best bet would have been to clarify your position and statement while you're making it.

 

[Kemosloby]

I'm not a gun person, so correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the metaphor of "shooting from the hip" imply that he's deliberately sacrificing accuracy for the sake of speed?

I forgot what we were talking about. Inauguration? The inauguration is more like a party than an investigation. Do people at parties choose their words as carefully as those under investigation?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I forgot what we were talking about. Inauguration? The inauguration is more like a party than an investigation. Do people at parties choose their words as carefully as those under investigation?

For this particular inaccuracy, he said it in a public meeting with senior staff from the CIA.

 

[Kemosloby]

For this particular inaccuracy, he said it in a public meeting with senior staff from the CIA.

And the consequences were?

 

[Neo Deist]

About Madonna threats to blow up the White House was a staged performance. They had posted online part of what she had said, in order to get the President to bite. And once he has taken the bait, then they posted whole video. And so the President did not make a mistake at all.

Madonna is a joke and has no room to talk or protest about Trump supposedly groping women. She grabbed a 17 year old girl's breasts and pulled her top down, on stage at a concert, exposing the girl to everyone present. That was in Brisbane, Australia.

Granted the girl said she was not offended or humiliated. The girl's mother wasn't even upset.

 

[tytlyf]

Madonna is a joke and has no room to talk or protest about Trump supposedly groping women. She grabbed a 17 year old girl's breasts and pulled her top down, on stage at a concert, exposing the girl to everyone present. That was in Brisbane, Australia.

Granted the girl said she was not offended or humiliated. The girl's mother wasn't even upset.

Yes, I'm sure it was staged. Madonna isn't running to be president, but Trump is. And as you mentioned, this wasn't in America. Aussies aren't as up tight as some here. Do Aussies refer to it as groping and are angry as all hell about it?
If not, probably not even worth the comparison.

 

[suncowiam]

He surrounds himself with YES people. The media is a bit different from his hirelings.

 

[jonathan180iq]

There doesn't need to be "conservative outlets vs. liberal news outlets" in the mainstream narrative. If the ONLY sources one can depend on are significantly biased, then something is definitely wrong.

Again, I agree with the basis of what you're saying. But what you're asking for is an ideal of journalism and of the "media" that has never existed.

Even our best attempts at eliminating bias are not without faults.
My challenge of naming a completely unbiased media outlet still stands. (I'll bet money you can't do it. - and that will have nothing to do with your effort, intelligence, etc...)

The sooner we (as a whole) realize this, the sooner we can stop having petty conversations about which news sources leans which direction and yaddah, yaddah, yaddah...as if it makes any difference.

Media is comprehensive. It's not singular. Trump's claim that he is "at war with the media" is really nonsensical. He's attempting to throw away a bowl of oatmeal one oat at a time... it's stupid.

Micromanaging has worked for him in many areas of his life - but it's not going to work as POTUS.

 

[habiru]

Fireside chats is the term used to describe a series of 30 evening radio conversations (chats) given by U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt between 1933 and 1944. Roosevelt spoke with familiarity to millions of Americans about the promulgation of the Emergency Banking Act in response to the banking crisis, the recession, New Deal initiatives, and the course of World War II. On radio, he was able to quell rumors and explain his policies. His tone and demeanor communicated self-assurance during times of despair and uncertainty. Roosevelt was a great communicator on radio, and the fireside chats kept him in high public regard throughout his presidency.

The series of fireside chats was among the first 50 recordings made part of the National Recording Registry of the Library of Congress, which noted it as "an influential series of radio broadcasts in which Roosevelt utilized the media to present his programs and ideas directly to the public and thereby redefined the relationship between President Roosevelt and the American people in 1933." Fireside chats - Wikipedia


Franklin D. Roosevelt - Fireside Chats

 

[Scuba Pete]

 

[Toten]

 

[Scuba Pete]

Yeah... an astonishing %64 of all mass murders are committed by white men. Who commits mass shootings? - CNN.com

 

[Scuba Pete]

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