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Trump Again Claiming Right To Assassinate Rivals

F1fan

Veteran Member
Trump's lawyers are claiming anything that he does that is illegal is an official act, even if it isn't an official act. They get to set the rules so they can be above the law. It doesn't matter that Trump insiders are discussing the criminal elements of their acts, Trump gets off because he was president. It doesn't matter that the conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election was personal for Trump, the lawyers are claiming it was an official act because Trump was doing it as president.

The same as with the documents case, they are saying documents that belong to the USA are personal. How? Because trump says so. That is how these people think. There are no lucid definitions of anything so that doubt and confusion can be argued for.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
One particular interesting point asked by the justices about was can Obama be tried for murder because of his drone strikes that went wrong and killed civilians or is he immune to charges.
Yeah, that has been discussed, along with Truman ordering the dropping of atomic bombs. Both are considered war decisions and fall under offical acts by the president on behalf of security. That innocent people were killed begs two questions: did the innocent people know they were around wanted criminals or not?

Whether it's those who worked with Trump while doing unethical and/or corrupt acts, or terrorists, they risk being held accountable by the law. The best approach: don't be a criminal. Don't hang out with criminals.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
If Trump did try to overthrow an election be illegal means then he should be prosecuted, but that is not what happened.
It is exactly what happened.
- Ordering Pence to reverse the election.
- Having fake electors in several states (mine
included) vote for him despite his loss.
- Threatening a Secretary of State with
prosecution if he doesn't "find" needed votes.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Sigh, dual justice system at work. But this has been debated to death on this forum. I wonder when Biden will get around to debating Trump and actually having a real election?
Biden is too far gone to be allowed to debate by his unelected puppeteers who are the ones really in charge and running things.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
Trump is likely the one that does not want a debate. But it is a bit early for debates. Historically they have always happened after the conventions.
Why wouldn't Trump want to debate? He is the one calling for them. I doubt Biden could debate, I bet there won't be any. If you do you will hear things like:

And the question is whether or not we should be in a position where you are -- why can't the experts say we know that this virus is, in fact -- is going to be -- or, excuse me -- we know why all the drugs approved are not temporarily approved, but permanently approved. That's underway, too. I expect that to occur quickly.

or

I mean, you got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.

or

You got more questions? I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.


Pure gold.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Why wouldn't Trump want to debate? He is the one calling for them. I doubt Biden could debate, I bet there won't be any. If you do you will hear things like:

And the question is whether or not we should be in a position where you are -- why can't the experts say we know that this virus is, in fact -- is going to be -- or, excuse me -- we know why all the drugs approved are not temporarily approved, but permanently approved. That's underway, too. I expect that to occur quickly.

or

I mean, you got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.

or

You got more questions? I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.


Pure gold.
You really have swallowed all of the Trump Kool Aid. Trump ran away from the debates during the Republican races. He knows that he would fail. All that he can do at this point is to insult and lie.


And really? Are you serious? How does that compare to Trump's claim that George Washington manned the airports? Sorry, but that is several magnitudes of idiocy greater than any error of Biden's. When you live in a glass house you should not throw rocks. For every foolish claim of Biden's we can find one ten times worse that Trump said. Ooh, let's inject bleach to kill the virus! Or stick a flashlight up our butts. Okay, that is paraphrased just a tad, but it is still accurate.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
You really have swallowed all of the Trump Kool Aid. Trump ran away from the debates during the Republican races. He knows that he would fail. All that he can do at this point is to insult and lie.


And really? Are you serious? How does that compare to Trump's claim that George Washington manned the airports? Sorry, but that is several magnitudes of idiocy greater than any error of Biden's. When you live in a glass house you should not throw rocks. For every foolish claim of Biden's we can find one ten times worse that Trump said. Ooh, let's inject bleach to kill the virus! Or stick a flashlight up our butts. Okay, that is paraphrased just a tad, but it is still accurate.
This is all you have I guess.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It is exactly what happened.
- Ordering Pence to reverse the election.
- Having fake electors in several states (mine
included) vote for him despite his loss.
- Threatening a Secretary of State with
prosecution if he doesn't "find" needed votes.
You forgot to say allegedly.

Unless of course you have Trump documented and filmed saying those things.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Trump's lawyers are claiming anything that he does that is illegal is an official act, even if it isn't an official act. They get to set the rules so they can be above the law. It doesn't matter that Trump insiders are discussing the criminal elements of their acts, Trump gets off because he was president. It doesn't matter that the conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election was personal for Trump, the lawyers are claiming it was an official act because Trump was doing it as president.

The same as with the documents case, they are saying documents that belong to the USA are personal. How? Because trump says so. That is how these people think. There are no lucid definitions of anything so that doubt and confusion can be argued for.
Even Trump would know that (assassinations) are impossible without a vote and consensus first.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
What are you nattering about? You found a weak error. I found one many times worse. I could so again and again. By your own weak standards Biden is better than Trump.
Ok, all this is just subjective. Here is your president.

’The beer brewed here. It is used to make the brewed beer. During is define, oh, earth Rider. Thanks for the Great Lakes. I wonder why,"

Cause if you could take care, if you were a quartermaster, you can sure in hell take care runnin' a, you know, a department store uh, thing, you know, where, in the second floor of the ladies department or whatever, you know what I mean?

So, you know — so mom can — grandmom can walk out without having — out of her porch — without worrying about falling, can take care of herself, can be left alone. They’re going to keep working to pay the bills.


“I’ve heard you speak about it, because you alway — I’m not being solicitous, but it’s, but you — you’re always straight up about what you’re doing,” “And the question is whether or not we should be in a position where, you, uhh, umm, are, why can’t the — the — the experts say, ‘We know that this virus is in fact, uhh, umm, uhhh, is, is — it’s going to be — or, excuse me, w — we, we know why all the drugs approved are not temporarily approved but permanently approved

My opinion is that Biden is an imbecile even when he was not cognitively impaired.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
People ought to be happy he can't do it via government unless he went full Gambino.
No, people ought not be happy, not if he is immune from prosecution even if he does go full Gambino. Doesn't make any difference if he does it with the Navy Seals, or just Stephen Miller in a book depository with a rifle.
 
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Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
Why wouldn't Trump want to debate? He is the one calling for them. I doubt Biden could debate, I bet there won't be any. If you do you will hear things like:

And the question is whether or not we should be in a position where you are -- why can't the experts say we know that this virus is, in fact -- is going to be -- or, excuse me -- we know why all the drugs approved are not temporarily approved, but permanently approved. That's underway, too. I expect that to occur quickly.

or

I mean, you got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.

or

You got more questions? I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.


Pure gold.

So much for your speculation that Biden would not debate Trump. He already did that back when Trump showed up while infected with COVID and wouldn't stop yapping while it was Biden's turn to talk. Biden finally had to turn to him and shout "Will you shut up?" I doubt that Trump will agree to debate him again, but March is way too early to be committing to debates. Right now, debate challenges from Trump are all just the usual smack talk from Trump, but he wants the campaign to go into full swing right away in the hopes that it will pause all of his criminal trials.

President Joe Biden says he’s ‘happy to debate’ Donald Trump. Trump says he’s ready to go


President Joe Biden said Friday that he is willing to debate his presumptive Republican opponent, Donald Trump, later this fall – his most definitive comment yet on the issue.

Trump said he was ready, though he questioned Bidens’s willingness.

Biden’s comment came during an interview with the Sirius XM radio host Howard Stern, who asked him whether he would participate in debates against Trump.

“I am, somewhere. I don’t know when,” Biden said. “But I’m happy to debate him.”

Until now, Biden’s reelection campaign had declined to commit to participating in the debates, a hallmark of every general election presidential campaign since 1976.

Biden himself had also been vague, saying in March that whether he debated Trump “depends on his behavior.” The two men debated twice during the 2020 general election — a campaign year constrained significantly by COVID-19 restrictions — and Biden was notably irritated by Trump’s antics in the chaotic first debate that year.

“Will you shut up?” Biden told Trump at one point during the first debate.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
So much for your speculation that Biden would not debate Trump. He already did that back when Trump showed up while infected with COVID and wouldn't stop yapping while it was Biden's turn to talk. Biden finally had to turn to him and shout "Will you shut up?" I doubt that Trump will agree to debate him again, but March is way too early to be committing to debates. Right now, debate challenges from Trump are all just the usual smack talk from Trump, but he wants the campaign to go into full swing right away in the hopes that it will pause all of his criminal trials.

President Joe Biden says he’s ‘happy to debate’ Donald Trump. Trump says he’s ready to go

Even I agree that Trump should stop his rambling on when Biden was trying to speak.

Even I wanted to know what Biden had to say so I would recommend next debate, if ever by these two, it should be moderated by Judge Judy. The only woman in the world who I say can get Trump to shut up.
 
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