I made no such assumption.
I even cautioned that more time will tell a more complete picture.
Oh, if only I could get Trump's harsher critics to back up their predictions with a wager!
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Trump Base Shows Signs of Cracking
- Thread starter Sunstone
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I even cautioned that more time will tell a more complete picture.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Yes, Trump's base shows many signs of crack smoking. What else is new?
What did you have in mind? I already have a bet with another poster on this board that the border wall will never be built.
I bet against your prediction.
Winner gets a Cajun feast prepared by @4consideration .
Loser gets a date with @Quetzal .
I don't see how it could happen, but if there's a draw, then @Kilgore Trout reads us both poetry.
sure, whatev
Win/Win as I see it!
Confucian Mormon Buddhist
Member
If Trump were impeached on spurious grounds, I'd fully support him just "impeaching" Congress back with some tanks and missiles.
tytlyf
Not Religious
But don't you elect all the GOP members in congress? I hear republicans complain about how the GOP and establishment doesn't listen to them. What boggles my mind is why they keep voting them in?
Confucian Mormon Buddhist
Member
Desperation. A lot of the Republican base is upset because they are more radical than the Party and the Party tends to sell them out when it comes to fulfilling campaign promises. When the perceived alternative is a Democrat takeover, though, they'll vote anyways.
tytlyf
Not Religious
That's my theory. The GOP will never listen to conservatives, they just need to convince them to vote for them. So GOP and conservative media is used as a tool to convince 'heartland' Americans to vote for the GOP. And to never EVER consider voting democratic.
Russia knew this and implemented similar propaganda efforts to fool people into voting 1 way over another.
Pure propaganda.
I'm not sure they're more "radical," although the ones from Middle America tend to be more traditional, more along the lines of old guard paleo-conservatives. The GOP elite tend to be of the neo-conservative variety, focused more on helping the rich get richer than anything else. The only trouble is, the elite Democrats are pretty much the same on economic issues, while maintaining their voting blocs and declaring themselves "different" by embracing identity politics.
Essentially, the wealthy elite are putting on a big show for us, keeping the masses divided against each other while they laugh all the way to the bank. The ones with eyes open are those who see through this charade and recognize both parties as two wings of the same political entity. The ones with eyes closed are those who are partisan and try to argue that the parties are quite "different" from each other.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
There are numerous "branches" within today's Republican Party, and Trumpism is only one of them. So, what we are witnessing is a very uncomfortable marriage that works only as long as it works 
, but if the "ship" keeps going down, many if not most of the "rats" will abandon it.
Remember that 2018 is an off-year election year, and all representatives and 1/3 of the senators are up for re-election, so they are not going to want to be associated with a sinking "ship". Right now, the "ship" is only taking on water, and we're already seeing some of the "rats" getting very nervous.
The above is my version of "Animal Farm".
, but if the "ship" keeps going down, many if not most of the "rats" will abandon it. Remember that 2018 is an off-year election year, and all representatives and 1/3 of the senators are up for re-election, so they are not going to want to be associated with a sinking "ship". Right now, the "ship" is only taking on water, and we're already seeing some of the "rats" getting very nervous.
The above is my version of "Animal Farm".
Confucian Mormon Buddhist
Member
Okay, so here's my serious opinion.
Trump has an aggressive personality but that's not bad. I very much prefer it to the polite, smile-at-you-then-stab-you-in-the-back attitude of most politicians. I respect him a lot more since he digs in his heels when attacked instead of just bending over.
As for his policies, he's really rather unremarkable. Pretty much everything he campaigned on was stuff middle America had been asking for for years. Ideas like deporting illegals and preventing Muslim immigration (which isn't even a thing of this, but that's how it's being spun) are only radical within the echo chamber of Washington, D.C. and Left-wing chatrooms; to people in the American countryside, that's what they've been campaigning for for, like, two decades. Same deal with globalization.
His foreign policy is, it seems, MORE moderate and pacifistic than other presidents before him, save for Obama. People get hysterical about WW3 in spite of the fact that he's the candidate who wanted more of a detente with Russia. His alliance with Pence is where I suppose people call him homophobic, but Trump personally came out as kind of neutral on gay rights, he's never indicated that he wants to roll back Black civil rights, and there's a lot of Jewish blood floating around in his family. So how is he supposed to be the racist?
Finally, you can bring up whatever claims of Russian hacking or other illegal activity you want, but when you get down to it, the reason Trump is under attack with calls for impeachment, and not previous presidents, is because the Left-wing in America collectively lost its **** when he was elected. Just went ****ing berserk (as evidenced by the riots), with no reason or justification.
Trump has an aggressive personality but that's not bad. I very much prefer it to the polite, smile-at-you-then-stab-you-in-the-back attitude of most politicians. I respect him a lot more since he digs in his heels when attacked instead of just bending over.
As for his policies, he's really rather unremarkable. Pretty much everything he campaigned on was stuff middle America had been asking for for years. Ideas like deporting illegals and preventing Muslim immigration (which isn't even a thing of this, but that's how it's being spun) are only radical within the echo chamber of Washington, D.C. and Left-wing chatrooms; to people in the American countryside, that's what they've been campaigning for for, like, two decades. Same deal with globalization.
His foreign policy is, it seems, MORE moderate and pacifistic than other presidents before him, save for Obama. People get hysterical about WW3 in spite of the fact that he's the candidate who wanted more of a detente with Russia. His alliance with Pence is where I suppose people call him homophobic, but Trump personally came out as kind of neutral on gay rights, he's never indicated that he wants to roll back Black civil rights, and there's a lot of Jewish blood floating around in his family. So how is he supposed to be the racist?
Finally, you can bring up whatever claims of Russian hacking or other illegal activity you want, but when you get down to it, the reason Trump is under attack with calls for impeachment, and not previous presidents, is because the Left-wing in America collectively lost its **** when he was elected. Just went ****ing berserk (as evidenced by the riots), with no reason or justification.