Trump Guilty of Sexual Abuse.

[Windwalker]

Nor do they act like conservatives as Trump certainly ain't one.

That is true, they clearly are not being true to their claims of Christian faith either in their continued support of the likes of that devil.

Not even being convicted of rape, and no doubt sedition in the future, will sway them to reconsider their Faustian bargain. Unlike those whom Jesus forgave from the cross, they know well what they do and clearly do not care. They don't care about their own souls in their deal with the devil.

 

[fantome profane]

Dear god, man. You equate what happened with Clinton and Lewinsky, with Trump forcibly penetrating that woman in the store?

Do you remember Paula Jones? That was not consensual.

Don't fall into the trap of thinking you have to defend someone because they are a Democrat.

 

[Father Heathen]

Before or after he was a Democrat?

I would just love to know the political affiliation of the jury members.

Partisan prostration is pathetic.

 

[Revoltingest]

Dear god, man. You equate what happened with Clinton and Lewinsky....

Oh, dear....such a mistaken over-reaction.
Let's consider how your post started off.
(I avoided the rest of the post, which was
based upon false premises.)

#1 I didn't "equate" anything.
(Why do liberals always mis-use that term?)

#2 I didn't refer to Monica.

#3 Both men were accused of rape by multiple women.

The Full List Of Bill Clinton Sexual Assault Allegations By 12 Different Women

Over the course of the past 48 years, Clinton has been repeatedly accused of serious criminal misconduct against women. In fact, when Clinton's troubling past has been raised by Conservatives, even Liberals as profoundly outspoken on behalf of assault survivors as Teen Vogue's Lauren Duca are...

www.yahoo.com

Partisans should calm down, & read carefully,
& don't assume things that aren't there.
Also, when criticizing one party or President
for something, one should first investigate
one's own party for similar criticisms.
It helps avoid embarrassment of correction.

 

[Windwalker]

Do you remember Paula Jones? That was not consensual.

That's true. But it was not raping her. If true he tried to kiss her and dropped his pants, that certainly would be unwelcomed lude behavior. I wouldn't defend that. But there is a significant difference between that level of inappropriate behavior, and forcibly raping a woman, which is what Trump was found guilty of doing based upon the evidence.

Don't fall into the trap of thinking you have to defend someone because they are a Democrat.

Why on earth would you imagine I would? I think Al Franken was in the wrong, and he did the right thing resigning. I had voted for him, BTW. I don't excuse inappropriate behavior. But Trump, trumps Franken and Clinton by a leaps and bounds, and yet, he literally could shoot someone in cold blood, and his cult followers would still defend him. They already are.

I wouldn't defend any politician who was as evil as he is, especially if he were in the party I prefer to vote for. He would violate everything I believe in. Unlike the Christians who vote for Trump, who call down moral behaviors as the highest value to seek for in politicians, decrying Democrats who have cheated on their spouses as immoral and unfit for office, yet excuse themselves voting for a brazen criminal and convicted rapist like Trump.

 

[Windwalker]

Partisans should calm down, & read carefully,

I'm not a partisan, and I would like to remind you of this bull**** of "calm down" you like to throw at others. Recall you accusing me of being "hysterical" when I voiced my strong belief that Trump would not peaceably transfer power on January 6th? I very much do, and I believe you do as well. I wasn't hysterical then, and your patronizing "calm down" here is just the same old trash. I won't bother with the rest of my response. It's not worth it. I would say though in response, to "grow up". That has value.

 

[fantome profane]

That's true. But it was not raping her. If true he tried to kiss her and dropped his pants, that certainly would be unwelcomed lude behavior. I wouldn't defend that. But there is a significant difference between that level of inappropriate behavior, and forcibly raping a woman, which is what Trump was found guilty of doing based upon the evidence.

Why on earth would you imagine I would? I think Al Franken was in the wrong, and he did the right thing resigning. I had voted for him, BTW. I don't excuse inappropriate behavior. But Trump, trumps Franken and Clinton by a leaps and bounds, and yet, he literally could shoot someone in cold blood, and his cult followers would still defend him. They already are.

I wouldn't defend any politician who was as evil as he is, especially if he were in the party I prefer to vote for. He would violate everything I believe in. Unlike the Christians who vote for Trump, who call down moral behaviors as the highest value to seek for in politicians, decrying Democrats who have cheated on their spouses as immoral and unfit for office, yet excuse themselves voting for a brazen criminal and convicted rapist like Trump.

I was concerned that of all the things Bill Clinton did, you automatically think of Lewinsky. The were worse things.


And I wouldn't put Franken in the list at all. I mean what he did was disgusting, but not the same thing as what Bill Clinton did.

Bill Clinton was a sexual predator.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm not a partisan, and I would like to remind you of this bull**** of "calm down" you like to throw at others.

Again, I advise maintaining equanimity.

 

[Revoltingest]

I was concerned that of all the things Bill Clinton did, you automatically think of Lewinsky. The were worse things.


And I wouldn't put Franken in the list at all. I mean what he did was disgusting, but not the same thing as what Bill Clinton did.

Bill Clinton was a sexual predator.

Franken was a nobody.
They fall on their swords.
But Presidents...they're above the law,
& inspire cultish apologetics. Trump
is the Grand Poobah of that disease.
I hope his prosecution & conviction
will change things. But I have low
expectations.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Dear god, man. You equate what happened with Clinton and Lewinsky, with Trump forcibly penetrating that woman in the store? Now one can call into question the power discrepancy between Clinton and Lewinsky, but it was consensual at the time. She said yes. But not so with "grab them by the *****" rapist Trump, who boasts about his forcible sexual assaults with women, and has now been found 'guilty' of rape by a jury of his peers.

I seriously doubt the standards between the parties are the same at all. I point to you to what happened more recently with Al Franken. He was rejected by the party and resigned, for his womanizing. But at least he didn't force his fingers in a woman's vagina against her will, while she was actively telling him no. As far as I know, the only political party that supports and convicted rapist is the MAGA party, formerly known as Republicans.

No, that was consensual. I do believe that Paula Jones was one of Clinton's victims. He has ore than one accuser.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Oh, dear....such a mistaken over-reaction.
Let's consider how your post started off.
(I avoided the rest of the post, which was
based upon false premises.)

#1 I didn't "equate" anything.
(Why do liberals always mis-use that term?)

#2 I didn't refer to Monica.

#3 Both men were accused of rape by multiple women.

The Full List Of Bill Clinton Sexual Assault Allegations By 12 Different Women

Over the course of the past 48 years, Clinton has been repeatedly accused of serious criminal misconduct against women. In fact, when Clinton's troubling past has been raised by Conservatives, even Liberals as profoundly outspoken on behalf of assault survivors as Teen Vogue's Lauren Duca are...

www.yahoo.com

Partisans should calm down, & read carefully,
& don't assume things that aren't there.
Also, when criticizing one party or President
for something, one should first investigate
one's own party for similar criticisms.
It helps avoid embarrassment of correction.

I knew that there were several. I did not realize that it was a full dozen. Which of course means that with sexual assault that there were probably at least twelve more that did not report. Just going off of statistics, so it is only a likely number. Not one written in stone. When it comes to rape it looks as if Clinton was definitely worse.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I was concerned that of all the things Bill Clinton did, you automatically think of Lewinsky. The were worse things.


And I wouldn't put Franken in the list at all. I mean what he did was disgusting, but not the same thing as what Bill Clinton did.

Bill Clinton was a sexual predator.

With Franken we do not even know if the groped, dang, I cannot remember her name. He mugged that he was doing so for a camera. But you could tell that he was not touching her at the time. Inappropriate? Without a doubt. But I have my doubts if air groping is a crime.

 

[Revoltingest]

I knew that there were several. I did not realize that it was a full dozen. Which of course means that with sexual assault that there were probably at least twelve more that did not report. Just going off of statistics, so it is only a likely number. Not one written in stone. When it comes to rape it looks as if Clinton was definitely worse.

I can't judge who is worse.
Someone will prolly accuse me of "False equivalency!".

 

[metis]

That is true, they clearly are not being true to their claims of Christian faith either in their continued support of the likes of that devil.

And, imo, that is so true, as I just do not understand how the "religious right" still largely endorse him.

Here's an article that deals with this: Some critics see Trump's behavior as un-Christian. His conservative Christian backers see a hero