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Trump Guilty of Sexual Abuse.

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Sub also pointed out that there were legal consequences for the false allegation. Admittedly mostly for the DA but as pointed out, they should have known better.
Is this a flaw in their system? Sure. All countries have flaws in their legal systems. That’s why they’re a working progress (ideally.)
They’re human constructs, after all.

Not exactly compelling evidence that it’s a widespread issue in the US legal system though.
Just that there are gaps to be addressed.
Like every country
These things happen.
Women lie and falsely accuse of rape.

They are rare, but happen. I would suggest men to date good women who are sweet and love men.
 

Exaltist Ethan

Bridging the Gap Between Believers and Skeptics
Trump lies about what other people do so other people are now lying about what Trump did. I'm uncomfortable thinking that a percentage of GOP donations to Trump is going to this woman because she was apparently touched by Trump 26 years ago. I don't like anyone in this story to be honest.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
Trump lies about what other people do so other people are now lying about what Trump did. I'm uncomfortable thinking that a percentage of GOP donations to Trump is going to this woman because she was apparently touched by Trump 26 years ago. I don't like anyone in this story to be honest. [emphasis added - JS]
^ this is thoroughly despicable
 

Ponder This

Well-Known Member
I also find fault with the left, who take such great
offense at Trump's being a violent sexual predator,
but paid almost no attention to his beginning a
war with Iran, only to call it off after advice of
military brass.
The danger he poses is far greater than they realize.
IMO, raping a few women pales in comparison with
killing hundreds of thousands of people in another
useless war.

FYI: The verdict includes that Trump was not liable for raping Caroll.
It is easy for Never Trumpers to overlook this, because they really only care that Trump pay and they don't much care how or why.


The jury didn't believe that she was raped. Their verdict was unanimous.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
The fact that he married the most beautiful actresses and models show that he could have all the women in the world.
He didn't need to "assault" a 53 year old woman.

That's my point.
He paid porn stars to have sex with him. The Stormy Daniels paid sex event happened soon after Malania gave birth.

And if he was such a decent guy why did he keep replacing his old wife with a new and younger one?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
He paid porn stars to have sex with him. The Stormy Daniels paid sex event happened soon after Malania gave birth.

And if he was such a decent guy why did he keep replacing his old wife with a new and younger one?
Indeed. This is strengthening my point.

He can have all the prettiest and sexiest women in the world. Money can buy anything.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
FYI: The verdict includes that Trump was not liable for raping Caroll.
Due to a lack of evidence. They acknowledged a sexual assault occurred. Is that something to brag about? Would you like being found liable for sexual assault? Would that help you get a job?
It is easy for Never Trumpers to overlook this, because they really only care that Trump pay and they don't much care how or why.
Never Trumpers are the only group that considers Trumps criminal behavior and lack of integrity. Why doesn’t this mean anything to Trump supporters? Because they have no integrity either.
The jury didn't believe that she was raped. Their verdict was unanimous.
No, they didn’t have adequate evidence for that claim. But it means Trump isn’t any more a competent rapist than he’s a competent president. He is good at ruining peoples lives. Loser. The Georgia indictment is coming soon. And then the documents indictment. And then the Jan 6 indictment. He won’t have time to run for president. Is this guy the best conservatives can do?
 
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Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
I would hope Tara Reade could get her day in court just like Carroll. I think her story is also credible. It is disgusting how often powerful men misuse that power.

In the Carroll case I think the jury voted the way they did because of the confirming testimony. And you need to understand that it was not about a history of bad behaviour, it is a pattern of very similar behaviour. That is why that evidence was allowed.
I agree Tara Reade gets justice if she is a victim.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
She can remember the year it happened at least. Lying about professional credentials does not mean she was not assaulted. Carroll had motive to sell a book as well. The jury did not believe Carroll was raped as she claimed.
The dilemma is that Biden doesn't have a history of sexual assault, nor the personality traits that is common among rapists.

Trump has 26 sexual assault accusations, and the guy is corrupt and criminal, so his poor character is consistent with the verdict. Why can't conservatives move on, can't they do better?
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
I wonder if E. Jean Carroll can sue Trump for defamation again if he keeps defaming her.
Yes, each incident is a new crime. When someone is pardoned on Monday and they commit a crime on Friday the pardon doesn't cover it.

She could file a new lawsuit and her lawyers file a motion for summary judgment since the prior case was ruled in her favor. So he could continue to be held liable as he keeps making new statements.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
She can remember the year it happened at least. Lying about professional credentials does not mean she was not assaulted. Carroll had motive to sell a book as well. The jury did not believe Carroll was raped as she claimed.
That is a bit overstating it. They believed the sexual assault. They were not convinced on the rape charge. That is not exactly the same as saying that they did not believe her.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Yes, each incident is a new crime. When someone is pardoned on Monday and they commit a crime on Friday the pardon doesn't cover it.
The amount of harm that he can do is far less, especially after the finding of the court. Too bad that he cannot be fined for being a pig headed idiot.
 
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