Trump is running on a joke. Are people really going to vote for him?

[Godobeyer]

Are people really going to vote for him?

Generalizing and racist people would vote for him.

 

[Ultimatum]

Don't doubt the number of racist, politically ignorant white people whom think a failed business (con) man, that doesn't play by the rules, is president material.
I say it's a fault in education, both political and fundamental.

LE RACIST LE RACIST LE RACIST.

I don't politically affiliate with anyone, but this sort of infantile hearsay is literally pointless: I mean, why did you even bother posting anything?
Don't you know that Trump is actually popular with Republican hispanics and blacks?

 

[Deathbydefault]

LE RACIST LE RACIST LE RACIST.

I don't politically affiliate with anyone, but this sort of infantile hearsay is literally pointless: I mean, why did you even bother posting anything?
Don't you know that Trump is actually popular with Republican hispanics and blacks?

Hearsay? Do you watch his rallies, listen to what he says, or look at demographic data?
Even if he had the entire minority vote of the republican party, most his supporters are still white.
His biggest advocates are white supremacists, and the majority of people voting for him have a high school education or less.

Where was I wrong at all in my comment?

 

[esmith]

Hearsay? Do you watch his rallies, listen to what he says, or look at demographic data?
Even if he had the entire minority vote of the republican party, most his supporters are still white.
His biggest advocates are white supremacists, and the majority of people voting for him have a high school education or less.

Where was I wrong at all in my comment?

So what are you implying when you say that the majority of people voting for him just have a high school education?
If one looks at the dominate factor it is not race, income or education levels it is "authoritarian inclinations". This "inclination" crosses race, education, income, Democrats, Republican, and Independents. boundaries.

 

[Ultimatum]

Hearsay? Do you watch his rallies, listen to what he says, or look at demographic data?
Even if he had the entire minority vote of the republican party, most his supporters are still white.
His biggest advocates are white supremacists, and the majority of people voting for him have a high school education or less.

Where was I wrong at all in my comment?

Ah, I see--you've clarified the position somewhat. Your comment:

"Don't doubt the number of racist"

As if only racists vote for him...

"politically ignorant"

"Anyone who doesn't agree with me is ignorant" infantile lefty soundbite.

" white people"

As if lots non-white people Republicans don't love him.

whom think a failed business (con) man

You clearly don't know what business is. I think your moral high ground has fazed the reality of success.

"I say it's a fault in education, both political and fundamental."

So what would you propose for political reform?

 

[Deathbydefault]

So what are you implying when you say that the majority of people voting for him just have a high school education?
If one looks at the dominate factor it is not race, income or education levels it is "authoritarian inclinations". This "inclination" crosses race, education, income, Democrats, Republican, and Independents. boundaries.

Political education is important when voting on politics, that isn't normally attainable with a high school education.
Whatever inclinations a person may have towards a candidate should come second to their efficiency and policy.

 

[Deathbydefault]

Ah, I see--you've clarified the position somewhat. Your comment:

"Don't doubt the number of racist"

As if only racists vote for him...

"politically ignorant"

"Anyone who doesn't agree with me is ignorant" infantile lefty soundbite.

" white people"

As if lots non-white people Republicans don't love him.

The way you responded is as if you want an argument.
That's the way I initially responded to the OP as well, someone already took that bait the way I intended.

ou clearly don't know what business is. I think your moral high ground has fazed the reality of success.

"I say it's a fault in education, both political and fundamental."

So what would you propose for political reform?

"You clearly don't know what business is".
You got me there, I totally had no basis at all for saying that or anything.

For reform I would propose raising the standards in education, making it more based around the student and society than national testing.
There's a ton i could do after that but really if you just fix that one issue there's a domino effect waiting to happen.

 

[Deathbydefault]

I think your moral high ground has fazed the reality of success.

Can't have a moral high ground when you don't have morals.

 

[Ultimatum]

Can't have a moral high ground when you don't have morals.

So you don't have morals? That's quite a self-degrading statement for a lefty.

 

[Deathbydefault]

So you don't have morals? That's quite a self-degrading statement for a lefty.

I follow morals, just not necessarily because I want to.
Who says I'm a leftist? I'm just smart enough to pick the guy who's qualified enough to run a country.

Smart? Maybe I should say 'politically educated', so as not to cause misunderstandings.

 

[esmith]

Political education is important when voting on politics, that isn't normally attainable with a high school education.
Whatever inclinations a person may have towards a candidate should come second to their efficiency and policy.

I have one word for that first statement....bullpucky. Just where are you getting your so-called "political education". I sure hope you don't try and say college/university.

 

[Deathbydefault]

I have one word for that first statement....bullpucky. Just where are you getting your so-called "political education". I sure hope you don't try and say college/university.

From political media and the people who eat, breath and sleep this stuff, along with many informational videos.
I'm still learning now, of course, but I do know enough at this point to feel confident in saying I'm educated on the subject.

Is it that hard to believe? I'm not saying I'm the next president and am a political genius of an unreachable caliber.

 

[Ultimatum]

I follow morals, just not necessarily because I want to.
Who says I'm a leftist? I'm just smart enough to pick the guy who's qualified enough to run a country.

And who are you voting for?

Smart? Maybe I should say 'politically educated', so as not to cause misunderstandings.

Does who you vote for constitute being politically educated?

 

[Deathbydefault]

And who are you voting for?

Bernie Sanders.

Does who you vote for constitute being politically educated?

Yes, to an extent.

 

[Ultimatum]

Bernie Sanders.

That makes you a lefty.
Additionally, you are a preposterously infantile idealist to claim that you're "smart" enough to vote for this person.

I wouldn't vote for him, I believe in free market forces and evaporation of poor government policy, so would I not be smart enough?

 

[Deathbydefault]

That makes you a lefty.
Additionally, you are a preposterously infantile idealist to claim that you're "smart" enough to vote for this person.

I wouldn't vote for him, I believe in free market forces and evaporation of poor government policy, so would I not be smart enough?

I am saying that I am smart enough to recognize the individual running for presidency that is most qualified for the position.
This in no way means I'm a leftists, it's based on his career and consistency (not to mention that he will help more than than hurt).
If that makes me an "infantile idealist" then so be it, I care little for such juvenile titles.

Believe in whatever you want, that's none of my business.

 

[metis]

I believe in free market forces and evaporation of poor government policy...

As does Sanders-- he's not a "Communist".

 

[Ultimatum]

I am saying that I am smart enough to recognize the individual running for presidency that is most qualified for the position.

No politician is more "qualified" than another for a presidential position--for politics is a soft, objective science. Thus, there can be no qualifying categories.

This in no way means I'm a leftists,

It does, for you support left-wing policy:

it's based on his career and consistency (not to mention that he will help more than than hurt).
If that makes me an "infantile idealist" then so be it, I care little for such juvenile titles.

So you don't care for left-wing policy? Make up your mind.

As does Sanders-- he's not a "Communist".

I never said he was, what an irrelevant post.
And I said evaporation of poor government policy: Sanders wants to boost the welfare state. These are incompatible with my economic leanings.

 

[metis]

I never said he was, what an irrelevant post.
And I said evaporation of poor government policy: Sanders wants to boost the welfare state. These are incompatible with my economic leanings.

Actually you did when you implied that he was against "free market forces" in post #116.

Secondly, Sanders does not propose having a "welfare state", and if he didn't I certainly wouldn't have voted for him in the primary here. Saying he does is simply nonsensical hyperbole.

Sanders has referred to himself as being a Scandinavian-style socialist, and those countries, some of which I've been to and one of which I have relatives in (Sweden), are overwhelmingly free market and fully democratic.

 

[Deathbydefault]

No politician is more "qualified" than another for a presidential position--for politics is a soft, objective science. Thus, there can be no qualifying categories.

He is more qualified because he is the only one who is actually qualified.
He holds the characteristics, consistency, honesty, and progressive moral value a proper leader should have.
The others not so much.

It does, for you support left-wing policy:

Some of the time.

So you don't care for left-wing policy? Make up your mind.

I care for it some of the time.
How is this relevant at all?