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Trump Jr is about to be arrested

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian

Isn't almost anybody in power tied to the mob in some way?

My concern about the release of Trump's personal income tax returns is that many people might get upset when they compare their paid federal income tax rates with what Donald Trump has paid; it's not Trump's fault the income tax code was so complicated before his tax reforms take place, that those with the best tax accountants and understanding of tax law managed to pay lower effective tax rates than those who weren't so privileged.

I do advocate the legalization of narcotics, prostitution and gambling, all of which would put organized crime out of business.
 
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Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
On what grounds would Donald Trump Jr, be arrested on.
Far as I know, Donald Trump Jr is a private Citizen that can talk to whoever he wants to talk to.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Isn't almost anybody in power tied to the mob in some way?
You think so?

Let's put that to the test: show us a connection between the mob and, say, Bernie Sanders.

I advocate the legalization of narcotics, prostitution and gambling, all of which would put organized crime out of business.
Good for you. :rolleyes:

Not sure how that's relevant to how Trump did favours for mobsters or questions about what he got in return.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
You think so?

Let's put that to the test: show us a connection between the mob and, say, Bernie Sanders.


Good for you. :rolleyes:

Not sure how that's relevant to how Trump did favours for mobsters or questions about what he got in return.

The mob will always be there to provide vices wanted by many people; until these vices are legalized businesses, I'm just gonna accept the fact there's gonna be organized crime there as a way of conducting business.

Butta bing, butta boom!
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
The mob will always be there to provide vices wanted by many people; until these vices are legalized businesses, I'm just gonna accept the fact there's gonna be organized crime there as a way of conducting business.
I have no doubt that anyone involved in construction in New York in the 80s had to cross paths with the mob, but there's a big difference between "okay, I'll buy overpriced concrete from the company you tell me to so that my building will actually get built" and "hey, mob boss - let me launder money for you in exchange for favours."
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
A google search of "FBI lies" brings up many cases where there's been federal corruption there and federal agency deception to the public.
If you pay attention, you'll also see lots of cases of people who went to jail for lying to the FBI.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The mob will always be there to provide vices wanted by many people; until these vices are legalized businesses, I'm just gonna accept the fact there's gonna be organized crime there as a way of conducting business.

Butta bing, butta boom!
Trump does construction & finance in NYC.
And he must deal with unions.
Mob associations are inevitable.
So the question is...
Has Trump done anything prosecutable?
The linked article predates his becoming Prez,
so he could've been easily prosecuted if there
were more than associations & insinuations.

If I were investigated, one would find connections
with a serial killer, violent thugs, rapists, child molesters,
drug users, drug makers, drug dealers, & lawyers.
It's all part & parcel of being a landlord.
 
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Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
I have no doubt that anyone involved in construction in New York in the 80s had to cross paths with the mob, but there's a big difference between "okay, I'll buy overpriced concrete from the company you tell me to so that my building will actually get built" and "hey, mob boss - let me launder money for you in exchange for favours."

Maybe a thorough investigation might lead to evidence of Trump having attended some amazing strip clubs or having savvy ways of obtaining business favors; but I highly doubt any evidence of Trump laundering money for organized crime will ever be uncovered.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
On what grounds would Donald Trump Jr, be arrested on.

As far as I remember it was about the Trump Tower meetings statements Jr made. He denied it at first than acknowledge it but denied his father had knowledge. Jr stated to play semantic games over "Russian"
 

Shad

Veteran Member
A google search of "FBI lies" brings up many cases where there's been federal corruption there and federal agency deception to the public.

Flint for example. He busted over Russian meetings as he answered the FBI questions based on his government position not as a private citizen too.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Maybe a thorough investigation might lead to evidence of Trump having attended some amazing strip clubs or having savvy ways of obtaining business favors; but I highly doubt any evidence of Trump laundering money for organized crime will ever be uncovered.
Oh, there's already evidence:

Bryan says mobsters were Trump clients as early as 1985.

"He sells three condos to a man named David Bogatin, who's a Russian mobster," Bryan says. "This is in Trump Tower. And the reason they did Trump Tower is that it was the second building in New York where a shell company could purchase a condominium. And so it makes it much more easy to launder dirty money."

When Trump's fortunes fall, the Russians smell blood.

"Once he loses out in Atlantic City, once he can't get a loan from a bank, that's when the Russian mafia says: 'We have an opportunity here,'" says Bryan.

That's when Trump becomes less of a partner for Russian mobsters and more of a mark.

Bryan's film alleges that Trump needed Russian mob money to reinvent himself after his disastrous string of bankruptcies. Without it, the film alleges, he would never have won the presidency.

"The Russians saved him. They rescued him. He would not have gotten back in business without them," journalist Craig Unger says in the film.
Active Measures director says Trump's Russian mob ties are his biggest legal vulnerability | CBC Radio

The question isn't whether there's evidence of his money laundering for the mob - there is - instead, the question is whether the evidence is overwhelming enough to secure a conviction... which renains to be seen.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Oh, there's already evidence:


Active Measures director says Trump's Russian mob ties are his biggest legal vulnerability | CBC Radio

The question isn't whether there's evidence of his money laundering for the mob - there is - instead, the question is whether the evidence is overwhelming enough to secure a conviction... which renains to be seen.

So CBC radio expects people to believe, that there's evidence, but yet for two years or more, Mueller as yet to find anything. If Mueller had anything, he sure wouldn't be putting it off for two years or more. That's for sure.
Seeing Mueller would like nothing more to hang Trump. For firing his buddy Comey, after all it was Democrats who kept calling for Comey to be fired. After Comey in his last statement against Hillary. Democrats wanted Comey fired, feeling what Comey said about Hillary will damage her chances for President.

In the which it sure didn't help Hillary, because of what Comey did, Democrats wanted Comey fired. So Trump fired Comey and then the Democrats jumps in to defend Comey. It seems Democrats can never make up their minds.always talking the talk but cant walk the walk they talk.

How long does it take for Mueller in his witch Hunt to find anything. There's been others that Mueller found evidence in a day or two.
But yet with Trump Mueller can't seem to find anything.
But yet the witch Hunt goes on and as each day passes Mueller isn't no further ahead than when Mueller first started his witch Hunt two or more years ago.

So the beat goes on and on and on and on.with no end in sight,
Ho Waite we have a new sheriff of AG, and it sure doesn't look good at all for Hillary,Obama,Eric Holder Loretta Lynch or the Mueller investigation. Stay Tune
 

james dixon

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
So Republicans still has control, no matter what Democrats try to do.Even if Democrats went to go after to impeach Trump it will still have to go Republican Senators. So Trump has nothing to worry about, But Democrats has a lot more to worry about than Trump would ever have to worry about.

It saddens me that people here and elsewhere believe that the “party” comes first regardless if these views are contrary to moral values and the rule of law.

Please set aside your “party” loyalty and look at this from an “American” point of view. Please ask yourself, do I want a racists, pathological liar running the country into the ground or not-?

just asking :)-
 

james dixon

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
So CBC radio expects people to believe, that there's evidence, but yet for two years or more, Mueller as yet to find anything. If Mueller had anything, he sure wouldn't be putting it off for two years or more. That's for sure.

God I pray not. Lets get this over with, one way or another.

:)-
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
I'm afraid Trump's private tax returns will be made public, only for the socialist Dems to play on class-envy warfare...:(
That's a conspiracy theory. Donald doesn't want you to see his tax returns because he's not as wealthy as he says he is.
If you haven't noticed already, Donald lies about everything. His supporters like being lied to.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
That seems like a leap. What he has or hasn't found so far has been confidential.

Yeah, like two years or more, That's not what a person calls confidential, that's called having nothing worth the tax payers expense to pay for. But a witch hunt.trying to find something that's no there to find.

All Mueller is doing, trying to find anything it doesn't matter what it is.
Even to go as far back 8 years or more, just to try to find something.
But yet going back that far, as nothing to with what Mueller's investigation is supposed to be about.
Remember it's supposed to be about Russia collusion in the 2016 election.
Not about what Trump did in his pass.

It seems the only Russia collusion there was, Was Hillary's Uranium one deal with Russia, There's the real Russia collusion.
But democrats don't want to talk about that nor about Eric holders fast and Furious gun deals, that got him expelled from being AG.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
That's a conspiracy theory. Donald doesn't want you to see his tax returns because he's not as wealthy as he says he is.
If you haven't noticed already, Donald lies about everything. His supporters like being lied to.

Yeah seems like Democrats supporters are lied to.
Yeah just like Nancy Pelosi came out, just a month or two ago, telling her colleagues, do whatever it takes to get elected, even if it means lieing to the people.

It's seems Democrats do a big part of lieing themselves to their supporters.

Just like Jim Acosta of CNN, lied about putting his hands on the woman at the White House news press.
Which videos have him caught. Doing the very thing, that he's lieing about.

All Jim Acosta and CNN does is play the people who watch them, play them for fools.
CNN cut that part out, so that people can take see what exactly Jim Acosta did.
But yet people buy into it every time.

But yet all the other news media shows exactly what Jim Acosta did exactly.

Let's watch Jim Acosta in action caught on videos.
 
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