Trump leaves Blue Dress behind a la Clinton

[Buddha Dharma]

It’s ok if I have an opinion, isn’t it?

An opinion is "I don't like coffee". Not: "I think porn stars are more likely to be dishonest".

That carries implications. That's an assertion.

 

[Rival]

Could be. Are you saying that porn makers are always honest? As I said “methinks”, as in my personal opinion. Yes, I think pornographers are less honest than other people. That’s not a certainty, just a more likely. It’s ok if I have an opinion, isn’t it?

Hey, I'm not saying that pornography is an honourable profession. I believe far from it. I just can't see the link between being a porn worker and being a liar. I understand a lot of porn business is shady but I don't want to use that to generalise and link a random porn worker to lying. Of course you can have an opinion.

 

[Stanyon]

And to think, the right wing tries to pass themselves off as the gold standard of values...
They led a witch hunt on Bill when he did it.

That poor man....

 

[Stanyon]

Could be. Are you saying that porn makers are always honest? As I said “methinks”, as in my personal opinion. Yes, I think pornographers are less honest than other people. That’s not a certainty, just a more likely. It’s ok if I have an opinion, isn’t it?

I think it's a good thing that more women in porn have smartened up and are actually starting and owning their own production companies.

 

[Father Heathen]

You guys have the most disgusting leaders on the planet.

An in democracies, the leaders reflect the electorate.

 

[Shaul]

Because of course Saint Trump could never cheat, especially given his statements about women on record. Trump never does any wrong, does he?

More like what he did over a decade ago, which nobody really knows what he did if anything, and wasn’t any crime, has no bearing on anything legally important. Trump does things wrong. And that is actually one of the main problem with this “nothing burger” of a story. It distracts from more genuine stories including stories about things Trump is doing wrong that a truly important. Most people have little interest in this story. Trump haters will jump and shout about it, produce sound and fury, but still this story won’t amount to a hill of beans in the end. It has no legs. One has to wonder why the Anti-Trump deranged crowd can’t see the futility of this. But then again, they don’t have much of substance to attack Trumpwith.

 

[Father Heathen]

Could be. Are you saying that porn makers are always honest? As I said “methinks”, as in my personal opinion. Yes, I think pornographers are less honest than other people. That’s not a certainty, just a more likely. It’s ok if I have an opinion, isn’t it?

And politicians are exemplars of honesty and virtue? Donald "grab them by the *****" Trump is certainly no less sleazy.

 

[Shaul]

I think it's a good thing that more women in porn have smartened up and are actually starting and owning their own production companies.

Um, if you say so. Wouldn’t it be even better still if pornography withered away so fewer people, including women, weren’t exploited?

 

[Father Heathen]

More like what he did over a decade ago, which nobody really knows what he did if anything, and wasn’t any crime, has no bearing on anything legally important. Trump does things wrong. And that is actually one of the main problem with this “nothing burger” of a story. It distracts from more genuine stories including stories about things Trump is doing wrong that a truly important. Most people have little interest in this story. Trump haters will jump and shout about it, produce sound and fury, but still this story won’t amount to a hill of beans in the end. It has no legs. One has to wonder why the Anti-Trump deranged crowd can’t see the futility of this. But then again, they don’t have much of substance to attack Trumpwith.

I.E. he's in my political corner so I hold him to different standards. Flagrant hypocrisy. Into the garbage your credibility goes.

 

[Shaul]

An opinion is "I don't like coffee". Not: "I think porn stars are more likely to be dishonest".

That carries implications. That's an assertion.

No, it actually is an opinion, my opinion.

The definition of opinion is “a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge”.

“I don’t like coffee” is actually an assertion, in that case one of a personal preference.

At least I now understand better why you are confused.

 

[Revoltingest]

I was just watching CNN and a friend of Stormy Daniels was on. She is also an adult film star named Alana Evans (I looked. Ew) . She stated that Daniels still has the dress she wore the night she and Comrade Trump had their roll in the hay. You guys have the most disgusting leaders on the planet.

Be nice or I'll force you to form a mental image of Hillary & Harvey Wein....uh....dang!

 

[Shaul]

I.E. he's in my political corner so I hold him to different standards. Flagrant hypocrisy. Into the garbage your credibility goes.

Wrong. Trump isn’t “in my corner”. Since patently you don’t and can’t know that I like Trump your next comments are rank foolishness. I’m neither a hypocrite nor is my credibility in any way diminished. Unless you can produce any proof that Trump is “in my political corner”, which you can’t because I’ve never said he is, your own credibility is the one going into the garbage.

 

[Shaul]

And politicians are exemplars of honesty and virtue? Donald "grab them by the *****" Trump is certainly no less sleazy.

So pornographers are honest because politicians aren’t also?

Each case on its own merits. In this case who should we believe. You want to believe attention seeking pornographers. Ok, produce the dress. She said they have it. Let’s see it. Prove it. Until then, yeah, I’m sticking with my opinion that these sleazy pornographers are liars.

 

[suncowiam]

Could be. Are you saying that porn makers are always honest? As I said “methinks”, as in my personal opinion. Yes, I think pornographers are less honest than other people. That’s not a certainty, just a more likely. It’s ok if I have an opinion, isn’t it?

What is up with your need to jump to conclusions?

Take little steps... Take little itsy bitsy steps...

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

I know, and for my part- I'm so ashamed.

There's a lot of that going about these days.

I have no idea what I can do about it. I voted, which was all I could do besides protest. I do that too, but it doesn't effect much when the other side won't listen to any perspective beside their own.

Perhaps it's time to think about yourself and your family first rather than those millions of your neighbors with whom you have so little in common and who see themselves as the protect Trump or protect the Republicans tribe rather than as your fellow American.

I got the felling that they considered me, a liberal atheist, unwelcome in America and not one of them. It says so on the money : In God We Trust. What place does an atheist have in such a country. Americans trust in God, and I don't. I'm they, not we.

What is country really under such circumstances?

Kennedy famously exhorted us to ask not what our country could do for us, but what we could do for our country. I did that already. I worked hard, obeyed the law, made a difference in my work, paid my taxes cheerfully, and supported the local economy.

America isn't reciprocating. Its government seems to be working against the interests of ordinary Americans. Ask yourself what was the last thing you did for America, and the last thing it did for you.

My wife and I voted with our feet and pocketbooks. We left America for what has turned out to be a better life. We now support a different economy and a different set of people. It's been a far greater value on many fronts.

I am no longer ashamed of America. America is doesn't represent me or my values any longer. What is my duty to it now?

 

[Shaul]

What is up with your need to jump to conclusions?

Take little steps... Take little itsy bitsy steps...

I’m not jumping to a conclusion, I’m stating my opinion. I’ll take whatever size step I want to, and certainly can’t be faulted when public accusers are making wild, unsubstantiated leaps.

 

[suncowiam]

I’m not jumping to a conclusion, I’m stating my opinion. I’ll take whatever size step I want to, and certainly can’t be faulted when public accusers are making wild, unsubstantiated leaps.

Ok. Ok. How did you reach to the opinion that porn stars are generally liars?

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

Unsubstantiated, self-serving claims from someone that sells her body to make pornography. Methinks she could be lying. The willingly gullible may choose to believe this as they wish. That doesn’t make it true.

The alternative is that a self-admitted serial sexual predator, pathological and habitual liar, and serial adulterer is telling the truth, but decided to ask a pornography star to sign a non-disclosure agreement and submit to arbitration for no reason whatsoever.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

Still don't care who he banged,

I do. I'd prefer a president with integrity. If he cheated on his wife, you can expect him to cheat elsewhere: in busines with his employees and subcontracts, on his taxes, and even in an election.

But, I guess if you're used to getting down with anyone for money your standards aren't very high in the first place.

You realize that you're describing Trump as well, don't you?

a good percentage cheat on their partners

Perhaps, but they are the poorer quality person. We exclude such people from our lives.

Shall we condemn them all for succumbing to their basic nature?

Um, yes. Isn't that what a moral standard is? Those that violate it are immoral.

 

[Subduction Zone]

More like what he did over a decade ago, which nobody really knows what he did if anything, and wasn’t any crime, has no bearing on anything legally important. Trump does things wrong. And that is actually one of the main problem with this “nothing burger” of a story. It distracts from more genuine stories including stories about things Trump is doing wrong that a truly important. Most people have little interest in this story. Trump haters will jump and shout about it, produce sound and fury, but still this story won’t amount to a hill of beans in the end. It has no legs. One has to wonder why the Anti-Trump deranged crowd can’t see the futility of this. But then again, they don’t have much of substance to attack Trumpwith.

If Trump wants to have sex with a porn star that is past her prime that is his business. But when he pays money under the table to her to keep her mouth shut and may break election financing laws in doing so then he has made it a public matter. Is it an impeachable act? I don't know. Talk to a lawyer about that.