Trump nominates pseudo-science promoter Dr. Oz

[Twilight Hue]

How do you address crackers uncomfortable with black people in the bathroom?

Not even close.

 

[Revoltingest]

How do you address crackers uncomfortable with black people in the bathroom?

What I imagine resulting from the Maga obsession
with women's bathrooms is....
- Laws with severe sanctions against entering a publicly
accessible lavatory or locker room when the posted
sex doesn't match the entrant's birth certificate sex.
- There won't be guards at the doors. On a complaint
basis, cops will arrest the suspected transwoman to
investigate & prosecute. Perhaps a little "tune up"
with tasers & cudgels soften "him" up first.

People who've done nothing wrong....other than
"looking wrong"...will be sent to prison for nothing
other than wanting #1 or #2 in private.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Oh. You are talking about a voluntary thing the government asked of private social media companies to avoid spreading misinformation. It’s all legal. The social media companies are allowed to censor any information they want.

Yeah, MAGA isn't too big into letting private companies have their own rules if if inconveniences them. Discriminate against gays all you want, but rules they AGREED to on a privately owned platform hosted by a private company? We just can't have that when it gets them censored and banned.
We see plenty of examples if this here on RF.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Not even close.

Yeah, it is. Protecting white women was a goal of segregation so it is close. Amd try reading into the racism and xenophobia of older sci fi and horror authors. I love Lovecraft as an author, but damn, especially earlier in his life he was nasty towards immigrants.
Or how do we address people who are uncomfortable around those with deformities and handicapped? Afterall there are still those stupid and hateful enough to believe mental illness and neurodiversity are the results of sin and demonic possession.
How do we address straights about gays in the shower? Even though it's always been around and it calls into question how much these straights crying over really honor the idea of keeping their hands to themselves if they're worried about people they've always showered with suddenly getting sexually inappropriate with them.
How do we address them? We have a well established history of eventually telling then tough titties, get over yourself, society must be equally shared.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Oh. You are talking about a voluntary thing the government asked of private social media companies to avoid spreading misinformation. It’s all legal. The social media companies are allowed to censor any information they want.

Do you not know what happened?

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S5-C4-1/ALDE_00013353/

And turns out a lot of what the government wanted censored turned out to be true.

I don’t use X. And if there are any death threats against anyone it should be removed and reported. There are many liberals and conservatives afraid of what an unethical Trump government is going to do. His picks are often unqualified and devoted to breach the norms of government and duty. Cash Patel had committed to going after Trump critics. How does that serve the American people?

Yeah, so there are liberals that are jerks as well.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

What safety concerns? Or is your comment another baseless bluff? Use facts.

Being assaulted, harassed by a man in the bathroom. This happens. Just having a man in the bathroom makes some women scared.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

They aren't the same.

I never said they were the same, but they are both objectively men.

 

[Martin]

Doctor Evil for Chief of Staff?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Being assaulted, harassed by a man in the bathroom. This happens. Just having a man in the bathroom makes some women scared.

So the claim is that trans people are going to assault people in the bathroom? Like they're some sort of predators?

Stats show that trans people are the ones most likely to be assaulted in a public restroom.

Trans women and trans men are there to use the facilities, like everyone else. Their presence isn't any more or less of a threat than anyone else. They are actually the ones under threat.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

So the claim is that trans people are going to assault people in the bathroom? Like they're some sort of predators?

Nope, I never said this. There are instances of this happening.

Stats show that trans people are the ones most likely to be assaulted in a public restroom.

Show me the stats. Doesn't that support an argument for single occupancy bathrooms?

Trans women and trans men are there to use the facilities, like everyone else. Their presence isn't any more or less of a threat than anyone else. They are actually the ones under threat.

So you disregard the instances where transwomen have assualted women in bathrooms?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Yeah, it is. Protecting white women was a goal of segregation so it is close. Amd try reading into the racism and xenophobia of older sci fi and horror authors. I love Lovecraft as an author, but damn, especially earlier in his life he was nasty towards immigrants.
Or how do we address people who are uncomfortable around those with deformities and handicapped? Afterall there are still those stupid and hateful enough to believe mental illness and neurodiversity are the results of sin and demonic possession.
How do we address straights about gays in the shower? Even though it's always been around and it calls into question how much these straights crying over really honor the idea of keeping their hands to themselves if they're worried about people they've always showered with suddenly getting sexually inappropriate with them.
How do we address them? We have a well established history of eventually telling then tough titties, get over yourself, society must be equally shared.

Bs. It's about males with penises in rooms with girls with vaginas uninvited.

 

[fantome profane]

Nope, I never said this. There are instances of this happening.

Pick any group, demographic, race, ethnicity, nation or nation of origin, political affiliation, member of a social club, anything you want, and you can say that there are members of that group doing something horrible.

If a cis gendered heterosexual white woman commits assault in a public bathroom is that justification for banning cis gendered heterosexual white women from public bathrooms?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Nope, I never said this. There are instances of this happening.

What does this mean, then?

"Being assaulted, harassed by a man in the bathroom. This happens. Just having a man in the bathroom makes some women scared."

Show me the stats. Doesn't that support an argument for single occupancy bathrooms?

Transgender People, Bathrooms, and Sexual Predators: What the Data Say

Content Warning: while I will not be describing any actual instances of sexual violence or child sexual abuse, these issues (and false…

juliaserano.medium.com

Transgender teens with restricted bathroom access at higher risk of sexual assault

Transgender and gender-nonbinary teens face greater risk of sexual assault in schools that prevent them from using bathrooms or locker rooms consistent with their gender identity, according to a re…

www.hsph.harvard.edu

No link between trans-inclusive policies and bathroom safety, study finds

There is no evidence that letting transgender people use public facilities that align with their gender identity increases safety risks, a UCLA study finds.

www.nbcnews.com

So you disregard the instances where transwomen have assualted women in bathrooms?

What instances would those be?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Bs. It's about males with penises in rooms with girls with vaginas uninvited.

Which addresses nothing in the post you were responding to.

 

[Revoltingest]

So you disregard the instances where transwomen have assualted women in bathrooms?

All those instances of it that you cited...frightening!

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Pick any group, demographic, race, ethnicity, nation or nation of origin, political affiliation, member of a social club, anything you want, and you can say that there are members of that group doing something horrible.

If a cis gendered heterosexual white woman commits assault in a public bathroom is that justification for banning cis gendered heterosexual white women from public bathrooms?

I agree with you. I was just making sure everyone agreed it does happen.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

What does this mean, then?

"Being assaulted, harassed by a man in the bathroom. This happens. Just having a man in the bathroom makes some women scared."

Transgender People, Bathrooms, and Sexual Predators: What the Data Say

Content Warning: while I will not be describing any actual instances of sexual violence or child sexual abuse, these issues (and false…

juliaserano.medium.com

Transgender teens with restricted bathroom access at higher risk of sexual assault

Transgender and gender-nonbinary teens face greater risk of sexual assault in schools that prevent them from using bathrooms or locker rooms consistent with their gender identity, according to a re…

www.hsph.harvard.edu

No link between trans-inclusive policies and bathroom safety, study finds

There is no evidence that letting transgender people use public facilities that align with their gender identity increases safety risks, a UCLA study finds.

www.nbcnews.com

Doesn't this make a case for using a single occupancy bathroom?

What instances would those be?

Transgender Bathroom Policies Have Led to 21 Attacks on Women: FRC

The Family Research Council has compiled a list of 21 incidents of men assaulting or violating women s privacy in public bathrooms, warning that despite what activists claim, transgender-friendly

www.christianpost.com

Young girl is raped in school bathroom by transgender peer - Washington Examiner

In a recent exclusive, Post Millenial investigated a tragic rape story. The victim, a 12-year-old girl, was assaulted and violated in October 2021 by a transgender classmate in her school bathroom in New Mexico. She was neglected by her school, along with several of her peers. This awful...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

All those instances of it that you cited...frightening!

Do you not believe it happens?

 

[Revoltingest]

I agree with you. I was just making sure everyone agreed it does happen.

Have any statistics on trans women assaulting cis women in lavatories?

 

[fantome profane]

I agree with you. I was just making sure everyone agreed it does happen.

And is not an excuse for discrimination against people who have never committed a crime.