Trump: Officially Next President!!!

[Aštra’el]

Very telling when words of admiration are used to describe a man who has no regard or granting of things that should be considered basic and guaranteed human rights.

You did not answer my question; what significant insights can you really assume to have gathered from a simple compliment I said about Vladamir Putin?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

You did not answer my question; what significant insights can you really assume to have gathered from a simple compliment I said about Vladamir Putin?

I can assure, my thoughts of you are not based on one post, and I really don't find it surprising that you would admire Putin.

 

[Revoltingest]

Other than writing Representatives and voting, I'm not in any power to do anything. However, there are many Libertarians within the Republican party, who are elected and in office, but yet the Republican party platform itself includes language to subject the population to Christian values, and the Libertarians are still going along with it rather than igniting a moderate firestorm to do away with it.

The few of us in the Republican Party cannot control it.
We can only influence to the extent we can, eg, Nixon
cancelled the draft after Milton Friedman's activism.
This is one of the greatest civil rights advances of all time.

If you want to join them to start a firestorm, be my guest.
Let me know how it goes.

 

[Aštra’el]

I can assure, my thoughts of you are not based on one post, and I really don't find it surprising that you would admire Putin.

In other words, my compliment to Putin was not "very telling" at all, and you were just being dramatic.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The few of us in the Republican Party cannot control it.
We can only influence to the extent we can, eg, Nixon
cancelled the draft after Milton Friedman's activism.
This is one of the greatest civil rights advances of all time.

If you want to join them to start a firestorm, be my guest.
Let me know how it goes.

All your's have to do build a bridge towards moderates. They could probably even disrupt bigger cities where I'm sure plenty are voting Democrat only because of social policy. Right now the winds are blowing in their favor, God was not a part of this election, and all they have to do is say "look at me! I'm Republican and I want married gay couples to protect their pot with guns!" They say that, and they'll have to spend their first few years in office trying to figure out what to do now that they actually have real power and control. Moderates would flock to them because so many are especially over hearing the gripes of the social issues that have, for most of them, so very little impact on their lives and just want it done and over with so everyone shuts up about it, many Dems would support it due to economic issues with many key social issues being safe, and many Reps would jump ship in a hurry to distance themselves from religious legislation. I've even thought about writing them a hand written letter, to the head party people, and telling them that I, a super-way-far-Left Communist, and telling them to get their asses in gear to further themselves and cripple a political enemy neither of us like.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

In other words, my compliment to Putin was not "very telling" at all, and you were just being dramatic.

Generally, when one admires someone like Putin, there are certain questions of character that come to mind, and certainly asking why.
Why you, I need not ask why, and it "ironed out" a few things.

 

[Revoltingest]

All your's have to do build a bridge towards moderates. They could probably even disrupt bigger cities where I'm sure plenty are voting Democrat only because of social policy. Right now the winds are blowing in their favor, God was not a part of this election, and all they have to do is say "look at me! I'm Republican and I want married gay couples to protect their pot with guns!" They say that, and they'll have to spend their first few years in office trying to figure out what to do now that they actually have real power and control. Moderates would flock to them because so many are especially over hearing the gripes of the social issues that have, for most of them, so very little impact on their lives and just want it done and over with so everyone shuts up about it, many Dems would support it due to economic issues with many key social issues being safe, and many Reps would jump ship in a hurry to distance themselves from religious legislation. I've even thought about writing them a hand written letter, to the head party people, and telling them that I, a super-way-far-Left Communist, and telling them to get their asses in gear to further themselves and cripple a political enemy neither of us like.

We do what we can.
It'll never satisfy the right or left.
But consider that your side (the commies) would gut many rights we hold dear.
I don't let that get in the way of agreement where it can be found.

It reminds me of the feminist argument that to be "egalitarian" is inadequate
because we don't meet their standard of being visible or effective enuf.
This is to dismiss us, & to seek conflict where there should be none.

 

[dust1n]

Crony capitalism isn't inherent in having a private company perform a fee for service.

Nah, it's just the first step in an inevitable march. Then the company can use the profits derived from the schooling to lobby the government again and entirely fund candidates who oversee the legislation that affects not only their business, but the people who are being forced to pay for it against their fill; despite the fact it isn't higher quality education,

I get nothing.....no kids in school anymore.

Me neither. I'm sitting here wondering why I am paying anyone's school, let alone their private school for them.

Now you're bringing in the lead in the water problem, which isn't related to education.
And in this case, it was an all government affair, with government employees even'
being prosecuted....
Emergency managers, city officials charged in Flint water crisis

http://www.freep.com/story/news/loc.../12/20/schuette-flint-water-charges/95644964/

Actually, you brought up Flint. And yes, I know that was a result of an government affair gone awry. It happens, like when the EPA ****ed up trying to clean a mine (the fact that the mine existed was a private entity's fault. Another example of the public having to pay the costs for someone's profits long ago.)

I was joking, because I would think that the flow of private companies bringing their water services would be one step closer to a privatized water system that taxpayers are required to pay for.

I'd have voted for him if it weren't imperative to keep Hillary out of office.

Oh, well it makes sense why you don't particularly seem to vote for any Libertarian candidates, or support any Libertarian issue, but rather Republic candidates and issues that are one step closer to Libertarianism, but no one where close to it yet.

I do take the easy way when I can.
If something smells of vapid polemics, I don't waste my time debunking it.

I don't think I've seen you expend too much energy debunking anything in particular.

 

[Revoltingest]

Nah, it's just the first step in an inevitable march. Then the company can use the profits derived from the schooling to lobby the government again and entirely fund candidates who oversee the legislation that affects not only their business, but the people who are being forced to pay for it against their fill; despite the fact it isn't higher quality education,

I completely agree that there's a risk of crony capitalism.
So long as we have glorious capitalism, politicians & companies will try to extract undue benefit from the other.
In any economic or political system, potential for corruption looms large.
So that isn't really an issue which dooms one or the other.
It's more about which is most efficient, despite all the attendant dangers.
We'll always have to fight corruption where we can.
(It's a reason I voted against Hillary. It's just a darn shame we had no better alternative.)

Me neither. I'm sitting here wondering why I am paying anyone's school, let alone their private school for them.

I might be of some use here.
(You're skeptical....it's such a rare occurrence.)
Though a fire breathing Libertarian I be, I still favor taxpayer supported education, particularly for the young.
Force people to work for the benefit of others, you ask incredulously?
That's socialism!
Well, not really....school isn't the "means of production".
I'm pragmatic.
Consider a country without universal education....
A great many uneducated unproductive citizens, all of whom have needs, & they vote.
This massive inequality (worse than we now have) would drive government in the wrong direction.

Actually, you brought up Flint. And yes, I know that was a result of an government affair gone awry. It happens, like when the EPA ****ed up trying to clean a mine (the fact that the mine existed was a private entity's fault. Another example of the public having to pay the costs for someone's profits long ago.)

Environmental damage is another area where I favor government regulation.
In this case, it's not just pragmatism, but my flavor doctrinaire libertarianism.
Government's function is to ensure individual rights.
But if one can pollute the water which flows onto another's property, this causes a problem.
Some might argue that the damaged party should seek remedy in tort.
But I find this impractical for situations where the damage cost can be high or even indeterminate,
& where the liable party cannot pony up the cost. I say it's more libertarian to regulate the
industries such that damage to others is minimized. And if someone is harmed, they can
recover damages.

I was joking, because I would think that the flow of private companies bringing their water services would be one step closer to a privatized water system that taxpayers are required to pay for.

I'm OK with privatizing water.
But there will be limits to the extent this can occur because the water or service sold flows thru many owners, including the public.

Oh, well it makes sense why you don't particularly seem to vote for any Libertarian candidates, or support any Libertarian issue, but rather Republic candidates and issues that are one step closer to Libertarianism, but no one where close to it yet.

I rarely support a Republican, voting Libertarian around 95% of the time.
I even voted for McGovern (a Dem) for Prez back in the day.
(Another case of the lesser of 2 evils....& I wasn't a card carrying Libertarian yet.)

I don't think I've seen you expend too much energy debunking anything in particular.

Perhaps this is because you wisely skipped over some of my more boring posts in those really tedious threads.
Some of the many things I've debunked.....
- The moon landings were faked.
- Bogus engine technologies.
- Government blowing up the buildings on 9/11.
- Lack of economic regulation leading to the most recent depression.
- Chemtrails

See.....would you really want to read any of that blather?
It bores the pants back on the girlies.

 

[Tiapan]

That fantastic pillar of democracy, the US, demonstrates how the minority rules.
When I was young I was told Democracy was one person = one equal vote, funny how middle management tends to invert the obvious.
Cheers

 

[Tiapan]

I'm OK with privatizing water.
But there will be limits to the extent this can occur because the water or service sold flows thru many owners, including the public.

Regarding the privatization of water,
Some peanut bean counter in Canberra, figured the government could sell the inland breadbasket Murray-Darling river water system into units.
This sounded great, the resource could be managed and revenue created.
Farmers irrigating from the rivers were allotted x amount of licenses and all was well.
Then came the 15 year drought, the farmers were broke and reluctantly sold there water rights for a song.
The water rights licenses were gathered up by big corporates eg. Cubby Station and investment mobs as a commodity.
When the the drought broke and the farmers tried to buy back the rights, but they couldn't afford them, because they now had massively inflated values.
While some farmers left the land. many others ended up committing suicide with unfortunate regularity, continuing today.
So privatization can bring some benefits but be aware of the sometimes hidden cost to the vulnerable.

Cheers

 

[esmith]

That fantastic pillar of democracy, the US, demonstrates how the minority rules.
When I was young I was told Democracy was one person = one equal vote, funny how middle management tends to invert the obvious.
Cheers

Sorry there mate, but we work on the Electoral College here. That insures that the population of every State has a say who becomes President not just the majority of the people.The U.S is a federal republic and a constitutional representative democracy . The "federal" part is one of three basic types of organization of power — unitary, confederal, and federal. Most nations are unitary in nature (local government with a powerful national government).

 

[tytlyf]

Environmental damage is another area where I favor government regulation.

So you agree that climate change is influenced by man and that the pollution (CO2) of the fossil fuel industry is creating a 'greenhouse effect' in our atmosphere. Trapping sun rays in our atmosphere and raising the temperatures at much faster rates than normal.

 

[psychoslice]

What I don't get is why he's hiring all the top swamp people? Didn't he say he wasn't going to do that?

He might want the pleasure of firing them all later.

 

[tytlyf]

He might want the pleasure of firing them all later.

Trump is a con man, and he conned a lot of high school educated people in America

 

[psychoslice]

Trump is a con man, and he conned a lot of high school educated people in America

I don't know about that, there has been so many lies about the poor man, while everyone is forgetting about Hillary dillary's lies, the lies are used as a smoke screen.......Na, he's the man for the job that's for sure.

 

[Revoltingest]

Regarding the privatization of water,
Some peanut bean counter in Canberra, figured the government could sell the inland breadbasket Murray-Darling river water system into units.
This sounded great, the resource could be managed and revenue created.
Farmers irrigating from the rivers were allotted x amount of licenses and all was well.
Then came the 15 year drought, the farmers were broke and reluctantly sold there water rights for a song.
The water rights licenses were gathered up by big corporates eg. Cubby Station and investment mobs as a commodity.
When the the drought broke and the farmers tried to buy back the rights, but they couldn't afford them, because they now had massively inflated values.
While some farmers left the land. many others ended up committing suicide with unfortunate regularity, continuing today.
So privatization can bring some benefits but be aware of the sometimes hidden cost to the vulnerable.

Cheers

Water management in changing climate conditions is tough no matter who manages it.

 

[Revoltingest]

So you agree that climate change is influenced by man and that the pollution (CO2) of the fossil fuel industry is creating a 'greenhouse effect' in our atmosphere. Trapping sun rays in our atmosphere and raising the temperatures at much faster rates than normal.

I don't know enuf to agree...but I do anyway.

 

[Tiapan]

Sorry there mate, but we work on the Electoral College here. That insures that the population of every State has a say who becomes President not just the majority of the people.The U.S is a federal republic and a constitutional representative democracy . The "federal" part is one of three basic types of organization of power — unitary, confederal, and federal. Most nations are unitary in nature (local government with a powerful national government).

So are you saying, in America no one is equal.

Cheers

 

[tytlyf]

I don't know about that, there has been so many lies about the poor man, while everyone is forgetting about Hillary dillary's lies, the lies are used as a smoke screen.......Na, he's the man for the job that's for sure.

Ah, but I need examples. Just saying it doesn't count. Mostly because you could be relying on Facebook for information and that is a no-no.

What kind of lies were spread about Trump?
If you think Hillary lies more than Trump, not sure what I can tell you.