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Trump Plan for Ideological Screening of Immigrants

Audie

Veteran Member
Of course America has the power to include or exclude who ever they want.

However it is the quality of a civilised country to not differentiate between people's and races in their laws and regulations and policies.


It is said that justice Is blind. And a majority of countries now have anti racial laws.

it has become fairly clear in recent times, that America is moving headlong into the abyss of racial, religious and political bigotry. And at the same time empowering that same bigotry and division with the authority of the law.

As America degenerates further, and loses the power of its dollar hegemony, along with it's status as the leading industrial world power, and it's ability to control world finance and trade. It will just as certainly lose internal cohesion and direction, and end up in a mire of political and civil anarchy.

In the process world trade will take a serious beating by collateral damage, but will have the future benefit of long term stability and growth, unencumbered by American interference or hegemony.

The future for America is less certain, and could be extremely difficult unless it can find a way to establish a new foundation based on of internal and external friendship and cooperation.

At the moment that eventuality seems extremely unlikely, and the prospects dire.
Sounds just like one of those apocalyptic evangelicals
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
If you don't like our religion, we don't want you.

So much for the First Amendment.

How long before he turns this screening on US citizens?

I notice that Trump refers to "our religion".
I assume he means Christianity.
Would this mean that citizens who are Muslim,
Hindu, atheist, etc don't belong here....or that
we merely live here at the pleasure of Christians?

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Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Most people know what Trump said especially in post 9/11 were Radical Muslims initiated their attack on the US.

All this proves, like this thread proves, is that the left hasn't really learned anything. It's so massively out of touch it's laughable.

Why would anyone suppose that radical Muslims from the middle east would not see themselves as having good reason to attack America.
America had been playing fast and loose in their countries, fighting wars and dominating them for years.
If you interfere in disputes you should expect to get your nose blooded.

They saw interfering Americans, not democrats or republicans, as did the rest of the world
To non Americans they are all the same. You never get round to asking a soldier his politics before you shoot him.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
No, be
My nieces are Chinese and they're actually from the mainland and not Hong Kong, so if you're properly vetted or whatever , if you ever decide to expatriate , not saying that you have that desire , but you would be welcome like anybody else cuz you went through proper channels.
The law says “ affiliation”.

Which I am not. But it’s a basis for exclusion.
i was asking if that’s reasonable.

Not that I wish to be in America, esp not now with
the seething hatred, esp from your left toward half your nation.

The left, who excluded me from the American U.
of my choice, for being Chinese.

There’s exclusion for “terrorist” affiliation.

There’s exclusion for violation of any country’s drug
laws no matter how insane the law.

Forced into prodtitution? Excluded for
moral turpitude.

Then there’s interminable waits to get in the front door, legally.

Illegal? Heres food shelter clothing plane ticket and there’s where you vote.

The American immigration system is heartless and insane on
a level thsts hard to grasp, even for those of us who e been in the mill.

You get a president to says he will try to improve it and half the country gets hysterical..

Im not anti American but you guys are scary.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Not that I wish to be in America, esp not now with
the seething hatred, esp from your left toward half your nation.
It's worse than that.
The hatred flows in both directions.
And now one half will own the cops & the military next January.
The left, who excluded me from the American U.
of my choice, for being Chinese.
Kennedy was the major initiator of Affirmative Action
ie, discrimination against whites, Asians, & males.
But this had bi-partisan support, eg, from Richard Nixon.
BTW, I was denied a job at U of Mich because they were
allowed to hire only blacks or women (at their nuclear
reactor).

Im not anti American but you guys are scary.
I understand.
But moving to China took you out
of the frying pan, & into the fire.
You won't be persecuted for being
Asian...but for thinking wrongly.
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
No, be

The law says “ affiliation”.

Which I am not. But it’s a basis for exclusion.
i was asking if that’s reasonable.

Not that I wish to be in America, esp not now with
the seething hatred, esp from your left toward half your nation.

The left, who excluded me from the American U.
of my choice, for being Chinese.

There’s exclusion for “terrorist” affiliation.

There’s exclusion for violation of any country’s drug
laws no matter how insane the law.

Forced into prodtitution? Excluded for
moral turpitude.

Then there’s interminable waits to get in the front door, legally.

Illegal? Heres food shelter clothing plane ticket and there’s where you vote.

The American immigration system is heartless and insane on
a level thsts hard to grasp, even for those of us who e been in the mill.

You get a president to says he will try to improve it and half the country gets hysterical..

Im not anti American but you guys are scary.
I'm sorry that you had that experience here Audie.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Sounds just like one of those apocalyptic evangelicals

Certainly apocalyptic in scope.
But not in the least evangelical. America already has too much religion to be healthy.

I am of the opinion America as we know it will not survive.
What it becomes will depend on its own decisions.
But neither of the parties is offering anything new or a way out.
Trump is only offering a faster demise.

It needs a plan like Deng Xiaoping developed to advance China.
But that is unlikely in a politically split country at war with itself.

Any advances made by one administration will be undone by the next.
Ad infinitum.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
It's worse than that.
The hatred flows in both directions.
And now one half will own the cops & the military next January.

Kennedy was the major initiator of Affirmative Action
ie, discrimination against whites, Asians, & males.
But this had bi-partisan support, eg, from Richard Nixon.
BTW, I was denied a job at U of Mich because they were
allowed to hire only blacks or women (at their nuclear
reactor).


I understand.
But moving to China took you out
of the frying pan, & into the fire.
You won't be persecuted for being
Asian...but for thinking wrongly.
Not so much now. I got my
whole attitude adjusted and
now only think right- thoughts.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Certainly apocalyptic in scope.
But not in the least evangelical. America already has too much religion to be healthy.

I am of the opinion America as we know it will not survive.
What it becomes will depend on its own decisions.
But neither of the parties is offering anything new or a way out.
Trump is only offering a faster demise.

It needs a plan like Deng Xiaoping developed to advance China.
But that is unlikely in a politically split country at war with itself.

Any advances made by one administration will be undone by the next.
Ad infinitum.
Just saying it sounds the same.

i don’t go in for prophecy.

But if you decide to follow Chinas
political philosophy I predict you will be sorry.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Just saying it sounds the same.

i don’t go in for prophecy.

But if you decide to follow Chinas
political philosophy I predict you will be sorry.
From what I can see, in the last 40 years, their politics is entirely pragmatic and results based.

They have already thoroughly researched counters to the vagaries of Trumps decision making, according to the South China Post. And are now in wait and see mode.
One of the plans is to largely wait out his term. With only minor counters to his excesses.

The time is better spent on their own plans and developments. Rather than wasting time and money countering Trumps vagaries.
 

BrightShadow

Active Member
If you don't like our religion, we don't want you.

So much for the First Amendment.

How long before he turns this screening on US citizens?


We have to wait to see what he does.

Trump throws different things at you - to observe the reaction and then he eventually does the correct thing. It is an ingenious method to get feedbacks from foes & friends but many folks misunderstand and hate him for it. They hate him because they don't understand his methods.


Just asking interested qualified folks questions at the beginning stage of their migration process - is a good idea because later if they burn USA flags or something like that then they could easily take them through the denaturalization process.
You gotta love America to be an American! Don't burn flags!

Don't blow this out of proportion. It is a good thing!
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
American citizens cursed with Asian ancestry get the same
treatment for being over represented in ivory tower applications.

I was accepted at NYU so it all worked out ok.
How has their attitudes been recently?
It seems quite a few Chinese graduates and post docs have returned to the mainland or Hong Kong to continue their research there. And that include leading researchers and departmental heads.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I wonder if there'll be ideological screening for government jobs?
Are you loyal to DJ Trump?
Are you a Christian?
Do you support Israel?
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
I wonder if there'll be ideological screening for government jobs?
Are you loyal to DJ Trump?
Are you a Christian?
Do you support Israel?
Do you hate China?
Would you buy a Chinese car?
Or a Huawei phone?
Have you any Chinese blood in the past four generations.

That last was a good nazi Jewish question,

What is your opinion of Chinese tools?
 
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