Trump Plans Mars Colony With Musk

[Dan From Smithville]

At last! Somebody other than me who remembers It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World!

I love that movie. I saw it once again a few months ago. I watch it about every time it is available.

 

[Stevicus]

I'm coming, Mamma! Your baby's coming!

One of my favorites. All star cast. Hilarious.

 

[Pogo]

The world only has so many intellectual resources every generation.. it's a question of what you want them to focus on , to make 'progress,' if you believe in progress. There are plenty of issues down here, though perhaps different countries disagree on what they are. The question is, if we have all our mental power focused on trying to fix things that can't really be fixed down here, then that's a waste of energy if it could have been spent going somewhere else. But the counter-argument to that, is if we can't fix the earth, then maybe we don't deserve to escape to mars or the moon, or whatever. But then again, maybe that can buy some time

In the mean time we are discussing someone who thinks windmills cause cancer being in control of many of our intellectual resources, what could possibly go wrong?

 

[Heyo]

eh... maybe it's for the best that we try to get up there.

Of course, it is. But it takes smart and pragmatic people to get us there, not two dewy-eyed dreamers with no expertise.

I mean, if it's between getting a boatload of resources and land, and something going wrong with the paper notes we trade down here, then I don't know, maybe going up there is a long-term win. Though I will think it will take a long time, and it's debatable if we should, before we figure out how to operate this place down here properly

We might have to go up there, to learn how to behave down here. On a space station, every bit of pollution will bite you in the donkey next week at the latest. Down here, we can easily wait 'till our grand children have to deal with the problem.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

In the mean time we are discussing someone who thinks windmills cause cancer being in control of many of our intellectual resources, what could possibly go wrong?

yeah I'm taking more of the long-view of it , I don't believe in everything trump or elon says. We are operating above the EO threshold in all kinds of ways I'm sure, and I don't know about windmills, but how many pollutants are getting thrown into the environment without being processed down here.. thousands? who knows

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I favor space exploration.
But I'm against massively wasting money.
You're not?

Space exploration by sending humans is far far
riskier & more expensive than using machines,
eg, remote sensing, unmanned probes. Those
tools have yield so much more information per
dollar than space travel by humans....who die
so easily.
Musk could very well be tricking himself & Trump
into belief that a Mars colony is practical. Or
he & Trump are lying to a gullible public for
political gain.

I agree. Robotic probes are much cheaper and safer for people.

Did Nomad teach us nothing?

 

[amorphous_constellation]

Of course, it is. But it takes smart and pragmatic people to get us there, not two dewy-eyed dreamers with no expertise.

I assume there are smart scientists who actually really want to work on it, who would be getting a green-light

We might have to go up there, to learn how to behave down here. On a space station, every bit of pollution will bite you in the donkey next week at the latest. Down here, we can easily wait 'till our grand children have to deal with the problem.

I would have thought that on a huge space station, that might be more of a minimal issue

 

[Dan From Smithville]

In the mean time we are discussing someone who thinks windmills cause cancer being in control of many of our intellectual resources, what could possibly go wrong?

Have windmills been completely rule out? They could cause cancer. I think that the only cure would be more cowbell.

 

[Pogo]

Have windmills been completely rule out? They could cause cancer. I think that the only cure would be more cowbell.

Not sure whether I am happy or sad that I have never seen that before.

 

[Stevicus]

I agree. Robotic probes are much cheaper and safer for people.

Did Nomad teach us nothing?

We could at least have a Moon base.

 

[Heyo]

I would have thought that on a huge space station, that might be more of a minimal issue

It's a big issue. Maintaining homeostasis in an enclosed system isn't easy, as the Bioshere_2 experiments have shown.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

It all depends upon the kind of business one starts.
I'd prefer that she address onerous regulations &
policies that impede starting a new business.
But that would require more words to say, & likely
be less powerful than pandering with a give-away.

The fact that she promised price controls isn't
washed away by promising tax cuts to the
biggest voter block.
Must you make me say it?
OK....
Duh!

What does that even mean?
Price controls? Wage controls?
Spending limits? Tax deductions?

Someone will pay.
Who?

The red tape is at township, city, & state level.
Perhaps she can use the bully pulpit to address
this, but she has no real power to force anything.

Only landlords that are corporations?
National rent control?
Stupid on steroids.

Does "work with" mean anything specific & practical?
Or just vague pablum-promising pandering...aping
Trump's style?

It's designed to sound good.
High flying promises.
Take from few Pauls to give to the many Peters.
No specifics.

Small businesses are great.
So are medium & large ones.
But those are for attacking.
They're boogeymen who do the "price gouging",
so that she can sell rent control & other socialist
leaning takeovers of the private sector.
She's dumb & authoritarian.
Just far less so than Trump.

You leave me as confused as ever. It's hard to know what you want. I know, every American wants lower prices -- but they don't want price controls and they don't want anybody to tell industry how much to charge. I'm left with a magic solution -- perhaps you're leaning towards divine intervention?

Guess what, the economy is not in the exact shape we would like it to be. Yet, it’s in better shape than any other economy on the globe after recovering from the pandemic -- not even close. And as much as people don't understand it, that winning recovery was under the Biden/Harris administration.

I think the real problem is just Americans -- You want to have our cake and eat it too. "Thank you for preventing a recession, but we don’t like this inflation that came with that preventative measure."

Just imagine if all that money hadn’t flooded the economy during the pandemic! You would have gone straight into a recession, perhaps even a depression! That's no joke, but none of you will even talk about that. It’s not even considered. Instead, you concentrate on the side effect from the cure, inflation -- the after-effects of preventing that recession, which would have been far, far worse than what you are currently going through. Never mind the fact that inflation is currently (at last) under control, your problem now is prices versus wages. You want prices to come down, but as I said, not by any means that you can articulate. And you forget, if industry drops prices, that cuts into profits, and when profits fall, industry cuts expenses -- which means, of course, employees.

SO! In the end many Americans want to elect Trump because they think (without any real reason to suppose so) he'll make it all better, with absolutely no consequences -- an absolute economic and medical miracle! Except that they will be imperilling the very basis of the nation, it's Constitution and democracy. They will embarass themselves to the world by electing to the highest office a rapist, a convicted felon, a man who can't articulate a thought without digression into electric sharks, a man who has promised to use his power to exact revenge on more people than either of us can now name, and pardon convicted felons who already tried to overturn the government.

And all for a few pieces of silver?

Yes, maybe the US is looking for divine intervention, but have forgotten what that word, divine, means.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

We could at least have a Moon base.

If we send up a crew to bore down to the center of the moon and install a very, very, very, very,...tiny piece of a neutron star, maybe it would increase the gravity of the moon and it could have an atmosphere. Then set up windmills and wipe out the entire population with windmill cancer.

Get Elon and Trump on the phone. We've got to have a conference call about this.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Not sure whether I am happy or sad that I have never seen that before.

For me, I would be sad. I've seen it lots!

I've seen Blue Oyster Cult too.

 

[Revoltingest]

eh... maybe it's for the best that we try to get up there. I mean, if it's between getting a boatload of resources and land, and something going wrong with the paper notes we trade down here, then I don't know, maybe going up there is a long-term win. Though I will think it will take a long time, and it's debatable if we should, before we figure out how to operate this place down here properly

Space protection might be an issue, you recall that this past summer there was some kind of a new security problem they talked about as coming from space

Mars isn't habitable or even practical to get more than a few people there.

 

[Revoltingest]

If we send up a crew to bore down to the center of the moon and install a very, very, very, very,...tiny piece of a neutron star, maybe it would increase the gravity of the moon and it could have an atmosphere. Then set up windmills and wipe out the entire population with windmill cancer.

Get Elon and Trump on the phone. We've got to have a conference call about this.

Maybe the Jews would lend their space lasers to fix that problem?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Maybe the Jews would lend their space lasers to fix that problem?

I hadn't even thought about that. We'll have to bring in MTG for that conference call.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Maybe the Jews would lend their space lasers to fix that problem?

This whole mission to Mars could be run entirely on electric sharks. If they swim in the opposite direction, they could create a magnetic field that is the same as Mars. Does Mars have a magnetic field? It doesn't matter. Musk has the enormous intellectual capacity to deal with any obstacle, real or imaginary.

Edit. It should be a field opposite Mars, so the sharks will have to swim in the right direction instead of the opposite one.

It's all technical stuff and I'm sure Elon has a guy for that.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

This bromance is bad for the country.

Trump vows to start a Mars colony with Elon Musk – if he becomes President

Trump has also pledged to reveal UFO close encounter videos from the real-life X-Files if he is elected back to the White House, and claims he will force the Pentagon to declassify the footage

www.dailystar.co.uk

Excerpted...
Donald Trump has vowed to reach Mars if he wins the presidential campaign.

The orange manbaby, 78, wants the US to reach the Red Planet “by the end of my term”. He also wants there to be “great military protection in space”.

The Republican presidential candidate said he will “talk” to SpaceX boss Elon Musk about getting the mission going. He told supporters in North Carolina: “We want to reach Mars by the end of my term.

Well, it's obviously not going to happen. Bush Jr said we were going to Mars, too. I don't think humans are going anywhere. We are not suitable for space travel, let alone permanent colonies. It's just a sci-fi pipe dream. We'll just continue to explore space with probes, robots and drones.

 

[Revoltingest]

This whole mission to Mars could be run entirely on electric sharks. If they swim in the opposite direction, they could create a magnetic field that is the same as Mars. Does Mars have a magnetic field? It doesn't matter. Musk has the enormous intellectual capacity to deal with any obstacle, real or imaginary.

Edit. It should be a field opposite Mars, so the sharks will have to swim in the right direction instead of the opposite one.

It's all technical stuff and I'm sure Elon has a guy for that.

We could do away with gravity to save fuel.
Just use mercury vortex generators.