Trump pressing the button? Is he that far gone?

[Stevicus]

Spoiler: Nuclear attack

 

[Twilight Hue]

This video is new, it might not be on for long.

But the guy, Lt. General Tom McInerney, speaks to why Pelosi is anxious to get Trump out.

He said she was "frantic" that her laptop was removed, that's why she's so frantic, at around 10 minutes in.

Tough to listen with the background music.

I've been under the impression that it was just used for presentation purposes.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

He said she was "frantic" that her laptop was removed, that's why she's so frantic, at around 10 minutes in.

Yeah. It cannot possibly be frantic, scared, anger, and other such emotions were common for politicians, staff, journalists amd others who were on the receiving end of an insurrection, and that the very core of our society was assaulted and violated.
Even Pence is showing he's furious over it, and I've never known him to display anger like that.

 

[Dave Watchman]

Well at least that will keep Trump on the phone for awhile and out of trouble for the duration.

I know.

But look again at the Mozilla note. They are twisting and embellishing the accusations against Trump to include reinforcing: "white supremacy". Is that supposed to defuse BLM? Or will it serve to empower more hate, more riots?

But as reprehensible as the actions of Donald Trump are, the rampant use of the internet to foment violence and hate, and reinforce white supremacy is about more than any one personality.

And who gets to decide who gets "de-platformed"?

Firefox?

Twitter?

Google?

Commit to meaningful transparency of platform algorithms so we know how and what content is being amplified, to whom, and the associated impact.

What if the net has a new "algorithm" bot that will sensor anything they want, anything THEY decide, including what may be the truth.

I've been under the impression that it was just used for presentation purposes.

That's what Pelosi said.

But either she is lying, or Lt. General Tom McInerney is.

He sounds legit to me.

I watched it twice.

But recommend watching it at least once, before Youtube shoots an "algorithm" at it and makes it disappear.

 

[Dave Watchman]

Even Pence is showing he's furious over it, and I've never known him to display anger like that.

Are you saying Pence was furious over Pelosi losing her laptop?

I read somewhere a dozen or more laptops were seized at that same time.

Did Pelosi have something on Pence too?

 

[Mr Spinkles]

I guess I can't believe everything I get from my far right sources.

I commend you for having the integrity to admit it. Respectfully, I suggest you try googling these things. I was immediately suspicious of your video and it took me about 10 seconds to find a fact checking website on it.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

They are looking at the language of his speech, claiming that he did not actually concede.

They are delusional just like Trump is. They are trying to reinterpret reality to fit their delusions.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

This is a video, actually an audio file, of a phone conversation.

The first 10 minutes is the most controversial.

EXPLOSIVE: OBAMA AND RENZI FORMER PM OF ITALY ORCHESTRATED THE THEFT OF U.S. ELECTIONS
(From an unknown source)

You found this on some random website that admits it’s from an “unknown source”.

Two questions for you:

1. Do you believe everything you find on the internet?

2. If you believed this, but it was actually BS like some of the other content you now admit was BS, how would you know? You wouldn’t know, you would just go on believing it, wouldn’t you? Think about it.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Are you saying Pence was furious over Pelosi losing her laptop?

Lots of people are angry and furious over what happened. Including theft of government and personal property. That did happen. It's absurd to think there must be something dark and secretive going on because it's a laptop and someone stole it.
Or you wear a smile if someone stole yours? No, you'd probably be angry. Not because some secrets or whatever might be revealed, but rather because your property was stolen.

 

[Dave Watchman]

1. Do you believe everything you find on the internet?

No, I don't believe all the content that I encounter here on the net.

2. If you believed this, but it was actually BS like some of the other content you now admit was BS, how would you know?

I'm smart.

I would figure it out in a timely fashion.

And only the Pelosi smear video is BS for sure at this point.

You wouldn’t know, you would just go on believing it, wouldn’t you?

No, I wouldn't.

But I consider all of it as evidence before immediately writing it off.

Otherwise I risk an erroneous understanding.

I don't need an internet algorithm to do the deciding for me.

Like this note here. It lends support to the others.

I'm not CONVINCED that it's true, I actually find it dubious in authenticity.

But I find it interesting.

Who would take the time to write it?

And why with 12 days or less remaining?

As smart as I think I am, the author of this note is smart too.

And little things, like he mentions: "the emergency broadcast system to be activated. The FCC just recently released a memorandum speaking to the requirements under Federal law to send messages from the president to the public.

That's like what the Lt General Tom McInerney was mentioning in the cellphone video.

Needless to say, if my cell trips off with an emegency broadcast in the coming days, I'll probably take a stroke.

• January 8, 2021

As I write to you today, I have no doubt that this letter will find many of you crushed under the weight of despair or perhaps lost in a maze of confusion. It is my hope that by the time you finish reading this letter you will be able to confidently join millions of others who support the president and another four years.

Let me be clear: Trump will be president for another four years. Biden will not be president. Yes, I know those are shocking words in these crazy days.

I have been approached by many saying, “It’s over…” and “Trump conceded the election…”. Nothing of the sort has taken place. Go back and listen to the videos all the way through. At no point does Trump even mention Biden’s name. At no point does he say he concedes. He does say that there will be a peaceful transition to a new administration and he does say that this is only the beginning. Those phrases are important to note. Indeed, we will have a new administration made up of a new vice president and cabinet as the current ones have all made their treason complete. I will touch on this in more detail shortly.

I say all this as only two examples out of many that at no point has our president been in a fight of desperation.

Now you may ask, “Why hasn’t Trump arrested anyone yet? Why did this have to go all the way to Congress?” Multiple reasons: first, Trump has been adamant in following the rule of law and the Constitution. He gives everyone, no matter how dirty, an opportunity to do the right thing (sometimes with warnings such as the phone call with the Georgia Secretary of State recently). He pushed cases through the courts, he presented evidence to the legislatures, and he even told the vice president to do the right thing. But with the betrayal by Pence and Congress, the treason is now complete and nobody can say that Trump did not allow the process to finish before acting. Second, in order to drain the swamp you have to know who are the swamp creatures. They can blend in very well with the crowds. But the false event in the capitol revealed the final traitors for who they were regardless of party affiliation. Trump flushed them out of hiding.

I need to take a moment to speak on Pence. With his treason completed, many of you may not know of his dealings and political posturing prior to the infamous day in the capitol. Pence was already wheeling and dealing way back during the 2016 election season with…wait for it….Paul Ryan. Remember Ryan? The RINO speaker of the house? Look at these emails that were recently revealed:

Pence-Ryan Emails

Pence was also involved with a scheme to oust Trump sometime during his first four years that was orchestrated by Rod Rosenstein and supported by the Clintons. The plan: get rid of Trump, become president and then appoint Rod Rosenstein as the new VP. Why would they want that? Because they felt Pence could be controlled. See these links for the 3 part series for more information:

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

More could be said but I don’t want this letter to become more of a book than it already is. Suffice it to say that when Trump said at the DC rally that he hoped Pence would do the right thing, he already knew what he was going to do but was, yet again, giving the man space to choose to do the right thing.

Now, nobody has been more supportive of Trump than Lin Wood. This man’s career has been fighting defamation lawsuits which means that he doesn’t say things, no matter how outrageous they may seem, without them being true as he knows the consequences of slander. With this in mind, Lin Wood has become a fountain of information and leaks of hitherto unknown information revealing some of the depths of corruption and evil in our highest offices. This is the same man who recently said that arrests are coming over the next few days. He called Pence a traitor well before the counting of the elector votes on the 6th. But did you know that he also said that the president, following the capitol incident, left DC on a “Doomsday” aircraft (used for communications in the event of a nuclear war) with his family and was in Abilene, TX. This aircraft was confirmed by both flight trackers and eyes on the ground. In short, he is a trustworthy source of information. If you have a means to follow Lin Wood on Parler, I would highly recommend that you do so to stay abreast of things taking place. You can also listen to this podcast: Podcast

So, what comes next? I don’t have the particulars but I can give you milestones to watch for as the coming days unfold:

1. Expect the emergency broadcast system to be activated. The FCC just recently released a memorandum speaking to the requirements under Federal law to send messages from the president to the public. See this link
2. Expect confusion. We are in a battle for our republic against elites that are attempting the very coup that they are accusing Trump of doing. In battle, there will be disinformation but know that plans are being fulfilled.
3. Expect high profile arrests to take place over the next 12 days and at any time. You may wake one morning to find someone in high office is no longer there.
4. Expect this to be a bumpy ride to the very end. This is not a television show where things are resolved in 45 minutes.
5. Expect more bombshell evidence to be released between now and Jan. 20th.
6. Expect some sort of internet blackout or outage: Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and Gmail are likely going to be affected. If you don’t have alternate forms of communication established now, it would be a good idea to start forming them even if it’s just checking on your nextdoor neighbors.
7. Expect Trump to be inaugurated on Jan 20th!
8. Expect the executive order from 2018 and/or the Insurrection Act to be enacted. This DOES NOT mean martial law. Remember that we have been under a state of emergency since 2018 which gives the president many powers to act.

These things may happen out of the order listed and some may happen multiple times. As I have been watching closely, many things have been and are in play as we speak. Remember that Trump has not and will not give up. He actually takes his oath of office to defend the Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic very seriously. This is why they are so panicked in DC: they know that Trump will fight while Congress just rolls over.

I’ve mentioned this before but it bears repeating. None of us would have believed what we all now know except that Trump and his team have painstakingly taken the time to show the public. Want to show what Congress thinks of you? Highlight that the stimulus bill only sent $600 to each American but billions to other countries (payoffs, money laundering). Want to show the extent of collusion with the CCP at all levels of government? Bring multiple lawsuits against the election fraud from the local courts all the way to the Supreme Court which will show just how brazenly treasonous the judges are. Want the public to see how rigged the election system has been for many years? Present the evidence openly as we have seen. Even this week we have sworn testimony out of Italy that the Leonardo defense contractor used satellites to change the votes from our election in the USA from Italy. These Dominion voting machines were actively sending data to Germany, Serbia, China, Iran, and now Rome. This corruption is MUCH bigger than any of us expected but none of us would have believed it until now. This is why things seem to have taken so long.

Now, the American public is awake and ready to take back their long forgotten responsibilities to hold the elected officials accountable. I have heard from many of you how upset you are with the obvious and willful disregard for the truth and for justice.

As the days unfold, let’s maintain communications among ourselves and try to help our neighbor to understand what is happening. Turn off the television as they have demonstrated they are clearly only falsifying the media to maintain control over your thinking. Do not despair but pray for our country, for Trump and his supporters, and for a national repentance to be stirred nationwide.

The next 12 days will be something to tell the grandchildren! It’s 1776 all over again!

A Letter from the Chairman​

 

[Mr Spinkles]

No, I don't believe all the content that I encounter here on the net.

Thank you.

I'm smart.

I would figure it out in a timely fashion.

And only the Pelosi smear video is BS for sure at this point.

You sound confident in your own powers of distinguishing truth from fiction. Yet, the Pelosi smear video is the only thing I checked, which can be checked, at this point. And if I hadn’t checked it, you would remain blissfully unaware that it was BS.

I guess in fairness, you did admit it was BS and you admitted that you should be more careful in trusting your right-wing sources. I do commend you for having the honesty to admit that.

I'm not CONVINCED that it's true, I actually find it dubious in authenticity.

But I find it interesting.

Who would take the time to write it?

Many, many people take the time to write many, many absurd conspiracy theories on the internet. And this has been happening long before the internet. Here is a sampler: The Skeptic's Dictionary

“Who would take the trouble to make this up?” is a tempting but extremely flawed way to look at it. If you study pseudoscience and conspiracy theories, you will find that the answer is “A lot of people”.

And little things, like he mentions: "the emergency broadcast system to be activated. The FCC just recently released a memorandum speaking to the requirements under Federal law to send messages from the president to the public.
...
Needless to say, if my cell trips off with an emegency broadcast in the coming days, I'll probably take a stroke.

Your assessment of the credibility of this letter - or essay, or whatever it is - appears to rest heavily on your gut feelings about how true it seems. That is a very good way to get suckered into nonsense and conspiracy theories.

If you don’t know the source, and it doesn’t contain hard facts that can be verified, then it’s just another random paranoid screed circulated on the internet - of which there are countless.

But more importantly, there are some red flags here.

First, the whole premise of this document is that it can predict the future with surety. It sounds almost magical. No actual expert, no matter how knowledgeable or how senior in government, can predict the future with certainty. That sounds like a weird mis-mashing of religion and prophesy with secular politics and government. In the real world, the future is determined by the choices people make, and those are inherently unpredictable. Real experts, with real knowledge, can tell you facts: like “Mike Pence told me X in private, on such-and-such date”. But they cannot tell you the future - at least not with 100% certainty. That is a seductive ruse used by online conspiracy theorists to grab attention from people who crave such certainty.

Second, this point about the emergency broadcast system being activated ... honestly, after the events of January 6, it would not entirely shock me if that happened. There was an insurrection at the Capitol. The President has been thrown off his normal means of communication. The President is an unstable egomaniac. If the emergency broadcast system goes off, it will not prove this writer had any more information than you or I have.

Let me be clear: Trump will be president for another four years. Biden will not be president. Yes, I know those are shocking words in these crazy days.

Dave, see what I mean here? The author is pretending to have perfect knowledge of the future. That’s a red flag. No journalist, no matter how much information they have, can know the future. No world leader, not even Donald Trump, can know the future. Real experts and people with real knowledge don’t pretend to have such perfect, prophetic powers. Conspiracy theorists do that, in order to get attention.

Expect Trump to be inaugurated on Jan 20th!

Let’s think about this magical, prophetic prediction for a second. Is there any scenario in which this claim can be proved wrong? Even if Biden is inaugurated, Trump has already said he won’t attend. It’s quite possible Trump will stage his own, parallel inauguration no matter what happens, consistent with his effort to take every possible avenue to overturn the election. One does not need any special knowledge to make this prediction and it is almost impossible to prove wrong. That’s another red flag for conspiracy theory nonsense.

I have been approached by many saying, “It’s over…” and “Trump conceded the election…”. Nothing of the sort has taken place. Go back and listen to the videos all the way through. At no point does Trump even mention Biden’s name. At no point does he say he concedes. He does say that there will be a peaceful transition to a new administration and he does say that this is only the beginning. Those phrases are important to note.

Why is that important? Trump has an enormous ego and it has been extremely difficult for him to admit he lost. It is hardly surprising that even after the violence of January 6, even when trying to restore calm, he could not bring himself to say the name “Biden”. It is very common in politics to speak about your opponents without identifying them by name. Many politicians do that. This doesn’t mean anything.

Trump also said in his speech on January 6, and many other times, that he will “never concede”. So of course, he would avoid using that word simply because that would be humiliating for him. That does not mean Trump wasn’t conceding. He basically said it the way a humiliated and humbled egomaniac would say it, i.e., avoiding the words that sting the most.

Isn’t that a simpler, less conspiratorial, less “prophetic” and more likely explanation of why Trump didn’t use the words “concede” and “Biden”? The man was pretty candid up to that point about not conceding. It sure sounded like he was conceding and he must have known it would sound that way. Why would a man who has practically no filter bother speaking in riddles?

Of course Trump would say this is only the beginning. That doesn’t mean there is a master plan for his victory. It can also be interpreted as an egomaniac who has never in his life admitted he is at the end of anything. It’s a way for him to end on a positive note and save face.