Trump Proposes a Trillion Dollars in Cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid

[Sunstone]

Trump’s budget cuts Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, breaking core campaign promise

Trump's proposal breaks an often repeated campaign promise to "protect and not touch social security, medicare, and medicaid".

Who on earth could have predicted that a man well documented at the time of his election to frequently screw over small business people, contractors, and laborers by refusing to pay them for work they did for him would be the sort of scoundrel who'd break a campaign promise?

Why, it would simply take a genius rocket scientist to correctly suspect by election day that Trump wasn't all that likely to live up to his campaign promises! And how many of us are that smart?

Americans aren't gullible fools at all!

I sure am glad we're draining the swamp of all those dishonest politicians and replacing them with honest business people. It sure has made a difference!

Comments?

 

[Terese]

Not only American votes don't matter, but apparently lives aren't worth anything too.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Question from ignorance...
I know there is a substantial difference in what a budget actually means practically, Australia vs US. Isn't there some requirement for Congress to then pass this, or put it into law, or similar?

In Australia, the Federal Budget basically determines allocation of taxation and spending directly. But from memory it's less clear cut in the States? Anyone want to have a crack at explaining it to a Southern Hemispherean? (hint : small words are appropriate)

 

[Sunstone]

Question from ignorance...
I know there is a substantial difference in what a budget actually means practically, Australia vs US. Isn't there some requirement for Congress to then pass this, or put it into law, or similar?

In Australia, the Federal Budget basically determines allocation of taxation and spending directly. But from memory it's less clear cut in the States? Anyone want to have a crack at explaining it to a Southern Hemispherean? (hint : small words are appropriate)

Budgets need to be passed by both houses of Congress and signed into law by the President. Currently both houses of Congress are controlled by President Trump's own party.

EDIT: See post #5: I forgot about the Senate filibuster. Of course, there are ways around it, albeit they are difficult.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Budgets need to be passed by both houses of Congress and signed into law by the President. Currently both houses of Congress are controlled by President Trump's own party.

Yes, but the Democrats still have enough votes to filibuster in the Senate. For those unfamiliar with American politics that means they can block funding bills.

 

[sun rise]

With the gigantic tax cuts for the plutocrats and the hundreds of billions more for the defense companies, of course the poor and middle class have to be thrown under the bus. They are such funny people anyway, or more accurately they're funny almost humans but naturally not comparable to the real people, the ones with money and power.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Trump’s budget cuts Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, breaking core campaign promise

Trump's proposal breaks an often repeated campaign promise to "protect and not touch social security, medicare, and medicaid".

Who on earth could have predicted that a man well documented at the time of his election to frequently screw over small business people, contractors, and laborers by refusing to pay them for work they did for him would be the sort of scoundrel who'd break a campaign promise?

Why, it would simply take a genius rocket scientist to correctly suspect by election day that Trump wasn't all that likely to live up to his campaign promises! And how many of us are that smart?

Americans aren't gullible fools at all!

I sure am glad we're draining the swamp of all those dishonest politicians and replacing them with honest business people. It sure has made a difference!

Comments?

Sadly I am not too surprised at all by this. It looks like Trump barely passed economics 101. It appears that he thinks that by taxing the poor there will be fewer of them.

 

[Grandliseur]

Trump’s budget cuts Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, breaking core campaign promise

Trump's proposal breaks an often repeated campaign promise to "protect and not touch social security, medicare, and medicaid".

Who on earth could have predicted that a man well documented at the time of his election to frequently screw over small business people, contractors, and laborers by refusing to pay them for work they did for him would be the sort of scoundrel who'd break a campaign promise?

Why, it would simply take a genius rocket scientist to correctly suspect by election day that Trump wasn't all that likely to live up to his campaign promises! And how many of us are that smart?

Americans aren't gullible fools at all!

I sure am glad we're draining the swamp of all those dishonest politicians and replacing them with honest business people. It sure has made a difference!

Comments?

I think saying anything on this matter just is a sure fired way of getting in hot water. This kind of subject is better off in non public discussions.

 

[Sha'irullah]

. . . . I am speechless. Trump is just making me happy and I hope my sister has heard the good news. With her being in the medical field she can put her mind to rest.

My fiance has Shwachman-Diamond syndrome so this news will greatly overjoy her with the cost of her medical fees being laid to rest.

 

[YmirGF]

Budgets need to be passed by both houses of Congress and signed into law by the President. Currently both houses of Congress are controlled by President Trump's own party.

EDIT: See post #5: I forgot about the Senate filibuster. Of course, there are ways around it, albeit they are difficult.

IF, of course, the House and the Senate approve said budget. I seem to recall that a couple of Obama's budget proposals went over like a lead balloon too.

 

[idav]

Trump’s budget cuts Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, breaking core campaign promise

Trump's proposal breaks an often repeated campaign promise to "protect and not touch social security, medicare, and medicaid".

Who on earth could have predicted that a man well documented at the time of his election to frequently screw over small business people, contractors, and laborers by refusing to pay them for work they did for him would be the sort of scoundrel who'd break a campaign promise?

Why, it would simply take a genius rocket scientist to correctly suspect by election day that Trump wasn't all that likely to live up to his campaign promises! And how many of us are that smart?

Americans aren't gullible fools at all!

I sure am glad we're draining the swamp of all those dishonest politicians and replacing them with honest business people. It sure has made a difference!

Comments?

As predicted Trump is trying to cut every program he can get his hands on to give the war machine a boost and pay for a border wall. I never believed the drain the swamp promise, the wall I believed. I don’t know if all are gullible, at least more than half are not. Any of the poor that voted for Trump need to rethink their voting strategy.

 

[Kuzcotopia]

Budgets need to be passed by both houses of Congress and signed into law by the President. Currently both houses of Congress are controlled by President Trump's own party.

Yes. This is correct. Budgets proposed by the executive branch are generally pie-in-the-Sky wishlists. Almost none of it happens.

That said, Trump's negotiating tactic, outline in his book, Art of the Deal, explains how he works. . . propose something outlandish, then make the other side find a compromise. We'll hear a legit proposal from congress to gut these programs once all the smoke clears. . . Unfortunately.

Upside: The current Congress will never get to this in 2018. Voting happens this year, and the House will neuter this completely.

 

[pearl]

I sure am glad we're draining the swamp

I'd rather have the swamp;
flood control, pollution clean up and it also provides a habitat for wild life such as fish,birds crayfish..also can be used recreationally for hikers boating, camping bird watching.
Trump has turned the 'swamp' into a cesspool,
an underground container for the temporary storage of liquid waste and sewage. a disgusting or corrupt place.

 

[pearl]

These cuts are a dream come true for Paul Ryan. There is a new proposal to replace food stamps with 'boxed food to be delivered.' Trump Wants To Replace Food Stamps
While the taxpayers pay for new refrigeration on Air Force One to accommodate more food.

 

[Buddha Dharma]

Not only American votes don't matter, but apparently lives aren't worth anything too.

I honestly think my country is coming to a point of systematic cleansing, so the ultra wealthy can continue living their current lifestyle

 

[Buddha Dharma]

I seem to recall that a couple of Obama's budget proposals went over like a lead balloon too.

I was wondering when President Obama would come into the conversation. Since this thread is about Trump, I was sure it was only a matter of time...

 

[tytlyf]

Not sure how this is a surprise or flip-flop. Republicans always talk about cutting these services. The sad part is people who rely on these services actually voted to have them removed.

How do you pay for the tax cuts for corporations and the uber wealthy? Go after the middle class. This is republicans in congress. Trump cannot do anything with the republican establishment elitists. The swamp controls Trump.

 

[Buddha Dharma]

The sad part is people who rely on these services actually voted to have them removed.

Prejudice and appealing to ignorance works wonders...

 

[tytlyf]

I don’t know if all are gullible, at least more than half are not. Any of the poor that voted for Trump need to rethink their voting strategy.

As long as RW performance artists are out there, the poor will continue voting republican. Conservatives vote republican because of fear. Propaganda is powerful and any excellent candidate can be destroyed because of it.

 

[Revoltingest]

More than most politicians, Trump seems to treat promises & proposals as opening salvos
in negotiations. (It's what I typically see from lawyers duking it out.) What he intends might
just be something entirely different, with the end result reflecting an unspoken goal.
I don't like this style....whether it is or isn't as I think.