Trump Says He Will Invoke the Alien and Sedition Act of 1798

[Clizby Wampuscat]

You just believe any garbage you hear, if it comes from a right-wing source.

When we have solid undeniable evidence of crimes Trump has committed, you deny it, even when there have been convictions.

But spread some nonsense about brown people, you buy it without question.

You have nothing when you need to call someone a racist based on nothing. “Brown” people and immigrants commit crimes too.

 

[fantome profane]

You have nothing when you need to call someone a racist based on nothing. “Brown” people and immigrants commit crimes too.

The only thing I need to do is tell the truth as I see it.

 

[Valjean]

You have nothing when you need to call someone a racist based on nothing. “Brown” people and immigrants commit crimes too.

But the Right singles the demographic out for special treatment, despite the low crime statistics.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

The only thing I need to do is tell the truth as I see it.

As you see it. Not objective truth. Got it.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

But the Right singles the demographic out for special treatment, despite the low crime statistics.

Nope. We call out crime no matter who commits it. It is the left that defunds police, lowers sentences for minorities, does not vet immigrants, cares nothing about minorities killing each other etc. they are just votes to you guys and if they don’t vote for you, you call them names. Like you are not really black (Biden) or you hate women (Obama).

 

[Twilight Hue]

Any actual evidence to show that the statistics are fake?

Yeah, the late Colonel David Hackworth already showed how the government fudges their figures to make their leadership look good.

It happened during their time and it happens now.

Misuse of statistics - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Edited by 1 Am nobody 24. BTW at the time of this posting so somebody can ignore them edit.

 

[Valjean]

Nope. We call out crime no matter who commits it. It is the left that defunds police, lowers sentences for minorities, does not vet immigrants, cares nothing about minorities killing each other etc. they are just votes to you guys and if they don’t vote for you, you call them names. Like you are not really black (Biden) or you hate women (Obama).

Do you know what these defund the police proposals entail? It isn't what it sounds like. Best to learn what's actually proposed, why it's proposed,and before accepting political rhetoric at face value.
Lowering sentences to what they'd be for the dominant demographic? Best to look into what change is proposed, why it was proposed, and the likely results, before rushing to judgement.
What would vetting involve? detention and background checks? Who'd do this? Who'd pay for it? Shouldn't some kind of probable cause obtain before we do this?
Perhaps people should be vetted before being allowed into another state.
The Left cares nothing about minorities killing each other? Seriously?

 

[Argentbear]

Yeah, the late Colonel David Hackworth already showed how the government fudges their figures to make their leadership look good.

It happened during their time and it happens now.

Misuse of statistics - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Edited by 1 Am nobody 24. BTW at the time of this posting so somebody can ignore them edit.

I asked if you had any evidence to show that the statistics are fake.

Your attempt to misdirect shows very clearly that there is no evidence to back up your claim....I don't think anyone is surprised by that.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I asked if you had any evidence to show that the statistics are fake.

Your attempt to misdirect shows very clearly that there is no evidence to back up your claim....I don't think anyone is surprised by that.

I didn't say they were fake , I said they were misquoted and fudged to make the leadership look good and I wouldn't trust a Democrat to quote an accurate statistic if one's life depended on it.

 

[Argentbear]

You have nothing when you need to call someone a racist based on nothing. “Brown” people and immigrants commit crimes too.

are they taking people's pets to ritually sacrifice and eat?

 

[Argentbear]

I didn't say they were fake , I said they were misquoted and fudged to make the leadership look good and I wouldn't trust a Democrat to quote an accurate statistic if one's life depended on it.

misquoted and fudged = fake

But hey lets play your childish little word game. Any evidence that the information was "fudged" or "misquoted"?

 

[Twilight Hue]

I guess that would make Vance America's Himmler or Goebbels or Hess. (Can't figure out which one)

Nope. Trump is following the act of our nation's founding father John Addams.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Ah, well, America -- it was nice while it lasted.

"A republic -- if you can keep it." Let's see how prescient Franklin was. (The brevity of that response should not cause us to under-value its essential meaning: democratic republics are not merely founded upon the consent of the people, they are also absolutely dependent upon the active and informed involvement of the people for their continued good health.)

Again the Canadian doesn't even know what he's talking about. The Act was introduced by John Adams, one of our nation's presidents and founding fathers.

 

[Viker]

Nope. Trump is following the act of our nation's founding father John Addams.

That doesn't make the act a good or correct thing. It clearly contradicts the First Amendment. Even someone like Adams can be wrong some of the time.

 

[Shaul]

So your position is that the prospect of a President enforcing a law that has been in effect for 225 years makes such a President a dictator.

 

[Pogo]

So your position is that the prospect of a President enforcing a law that has been in effect for 225 years makes such a President a dictator.

No, the prospect of a president using a poorly written law for purposes antithetical to the reasons and ethos of the formulation of the country is a gross violation of his responsibilities, his using it for his own political purposes rather than those of the country without regard makes him a wannabe dictator. He won't succeed, but he will create chaos in the process.

 

[Shaul]

No, the prospect of a president using a poorly written law for purposes antithetical to the reasons and ethos of the formulation of the country is a gross violation of his responsibilities, his using it for his own political purposes rather than those of the country without regard makes him a wannabe dictator. He won't succeed, but he will create chaos in the process.

So you are arguing that the law that has been in place for 225 years is poorly written and nobody figured that out until now and that President Trump would misuse it even though he didn't the last time he was President.

 

[Pogo]

So you are arguing that the law that has been in place for 225 years is poorly written and nobody figured that out until now and that President Trump would misuse it even though he didn't the last time he was President.

Yes poorly written and misused such as interning Japanese for no good reason during WWII as just one example.
As to not using it the first time around, Trump knows so little of the law that he would never have thought of it on his own and it no doubt took one of his sycophants to come up with the idea and tell him how great it was.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So you are arguing that the law that has been in place for 225 years is poorly written and nobody figured that out until now and that President Trump would misuse it even though he didn't the last time he was President.

Why argue that way? You might as well admit that you are wrong when you do that. It would be far shorter.

It has been misused before. The last time that I am aware of was during WWII. Perhaps you are not a student of history.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yes poorly written and misused such as interning Japanese for no good reason during WWII as just one example.
As to not using it the first time around, Trump knows so little of the law that he would never have thought of it on his own and it no doubt took one of his sycophants to come up with the idea and tell him how great it was.

Dang it, beat me to the punch. I was wondering if he forgot about US internment camps.